J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[Deino]

Front gear is just turned around. I don't see anything special on the dummy PL-8. I think its not the same plane as 01 there, likely to be another prototype.

Hmmm ... the PL-8 it seems to be facing toward us and not in the same direction as the aircraft !???

With the tow bar You may be right !

 

[crobato]

I've seen similar effects on many photos where the missile doesn't seem to look straight. But one has to make an allowance that your eye and mind can play tricks. I didn't seem to find the shadowing on the missile to be unusual or inconsistent. Seems like the same missile dummy we have seen all these years on J-10 prototypes.

 

[Blitzo]

On the "sharper" picture the J-10B engine nozzle seems to be no different than the standard J-10. Does this suggest that same Russian engines are still being used?

 

[the spectator]

I still believe the photos were photoshopped.

 

[pla101prc]

i think these photos altogether are substantial enough to convince most ppl that its real. what stages of testing do you guys think the jet has already gone through?

 

[Deino]

Just to put it together ... IMO the detail shots and -even not good in quality - overall views of aircraft 01 are proof enough, that this is a real aircraft.

Regarding that "un-numbered" aircraft from the clearer picture I'm not sure if this is ...

1. a psed standard J-10A with all/most the changes incorporated

or ...

2. a second airframe with a different fit.


I really don't think that these are the same aircraft as ...

- the MAW's are missing
- the formation/slime light on the tail is missing
- the radome is different (at least on both available pictures)
- the IRST/LR is on 01 larger and grey …
- something "happened" to the front-gear ... as to the PL-8 (IMO)
- it doesn't have that "new" wing pylon clearly visible on 01
- the engine's exhaust / afterburner looks like a standard AL-31FN ... in contrast to the other one (even if I would be surprised if CAC would test the WS-10A on a new aircraft !)
- 01 has a "black box" an the rear fuselage (maybe chaff(flare disp.) ... the other one a black dot


So ... let's sit and wait a little bit longer.

Deino

 

[Blitzo]

Indeed it probably is a second prototype. However this could be disturbing. If the first prototype was using the WS-10A, and the second the Al-31FN; then does that mean the Chinese are still going with the Russian engines?
And what new wing pylon?

 

[Deino]

I don't see any difference in the exhausts of the J-10B compared to the J-10A in any of the pictures. Am I missing something?

You are correct !! I thought in the first picture (see post 142) it looked different !

Deino

 

[Deino]

...
And what new wing pylon?

This one ....

Deino

 

[Blitzo]

This one ....

Deino

Ah right thanks. I think that may be the pylon mentioned by Richard fisher which could hold air to air missiles....

And the first J-10B exhaust's colour and shape is a bit different to the later J-10B exhausts