Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.


ChineseToTheBone

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From the latest photos of airborne being flied to Russia, they’re pretty much still in the old grey-blue uniform. Time will tell...
The 2020 International Army Games will begin on August 23rd, so be prepared for Russian live broadcasts on YouTube showing how the Chinese soldiers are really dressed nowadays in various branches.

I will probably only watch the 扬基 hosted Tank Biathlon and hope for China to win silver.
 

plawolf

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Are those suppresors? PLA is finally using suppresors?
The Chinese have been using suppressors for a long time.


It’s just treated as a specialist tool rather than almost general issued like western special forces seem to these days.

Modern suppressors are just baffles, the difficult part is working out the baffle design, not in terms of manufacturing, it’s something that could easily be copied and massed produced from commercial available examples.

I think a main reason PLA soldiers are rarely photographed with suppressors (other than on LS2s as pictured here) is because unless you are using special subsonic rounds, even the best suppressors don’t do that much in terms of sound mitigation. Hollywood quiet is only possible on something like a 22LR, and even then only with subsonic ammo.

With suppressed subsonic rounds, you are really trading off a lot of long range capabilities and stopping power for sound mitigation. That might be fine for Seals who focus on door kicking and room clearance ops against unarmoured insurgents, but I don’t think the PLA feels that is a worthwhile trade off other than maybe one point man per squad with a LS2.

This is a classic case in point of the difference in equipment and tactical preference between militaries focused on conventional warfare compared to those who are more focused on counter insurgency.
 

AZaz09dude

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Doesn't have to be whisper quiet, just quiet enough to almost hearing safe levels. Would make communicating while shooting much easier too. Especially for the PLA which seems almost afraid of issuing proper hearing protection :p
 

plawolf

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Doesn't have to be whisper quiet, just quiet enough to almost hearing safe levels. Would make communicating while shooting much easier too. Especially for the PLA which seems almost afraid of issuing proper hearing protection :p
The money for suppressors and subsonic ammo would be far better spent on decent earpro and individual tac radio that plugs into said ear pro.

It’s all about funding priorities. That is why the PLA gets so much value for their money while the US military wastes huge proportions of their budget on Gucci gear that adds a lot of tactikool but minimal real actual operational advantages.
 

AZaz09dude

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The money for suppressors and subsonic ammo would be far better spent on decent earpro and individual tac radio that plugs into said ear pro.

It’s all about funding priorities. That is why the PLA gets so much value for their money while the US military wastes huge proportions of their budget on Gucci gear that adds a lot of tactikool but minimal real actual operational advantages.
I agree earpro itself would be a better investment in that context, just pointing out that mass issuing suppressors like what the US does for a lot of their SOF and is considering for the USMC does offer real, practical advantages outside of just looking tacticool or being whisper quiet with subsonic ammo
 

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