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mossen

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Mr. Shahoor seems emboldened to ween themselves off the Russian wagon due to the fact that he firmly positions his country as THAT CHINA IS ITS NUMBER 1 ENEMY
Both his sons are living and working in the USA. He is basically a "comprador intellectual". A sellout who tries to influence Indian policy in a way that will further enrich his family, as they have bet the family farm, so to speak, on integrating into the West.

India has many such elites, which is why it will be child's play for the West to control the country. China had a brief moment where things were headed that way, but Xi put a decided end to it, which is when the West realised that soft infiltration was never going to work so only hard confrontation was left as an option.
 

joeljp06

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Interesting what China will have in 2030s. Obviously J-10 series will have stopped in production, and perhaps only C and D series remain in service.

J-35 will be already in service in significant number and J-20B will be in significant number too. I know that India is not really in China main radar or benchmark, so not really relevant

Wondering what the comparison of MK.2 to China's .. perhaps J-10C ? But it seems J-10C is a lot bigger and has significantly more powerful engine

Is it fair to say that we should compare it with JF-17 block 4 or 5 ?
IMO they are comparable considering J10 is having just a 2 ton MTOW diff with the tejas mk2


J10 has a much more powerful engine and should offer the jet a bit better TWR performance.
Altthough the max speed shown in both aircraft seem to be the same

Both have same number of hardpoints
and interestingly Tejas mk2 has a higher payload than the J10 (this J10 spec could be outdated) while tejas mk2 has a bit lower fuel capacity than the J10

J10 has a bigger nose cone, so probably a bigger radar
Tejas mk2 uttam radar has almost a 1000 TRMs
 

HumanHDMI

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Why is that the case? Are you making that opinion based purely on your partisan politics (you're a BJP supporter) and since both Pravin and Tharoor are both congress supporters one of which is a current elected politician in Tharoor.
Pravin isn't that bad he makes some good points. He is the only indian commentator I know of that understands the PLA's push into network centric warfare.My main critique is that, looking at his newest book, he doesn't really understand AI. Like he seems to portray Chinese AI more like skynet from Terminator rather then a bunch of algorithms improve productivity and speed.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Pravin isn't that bad he makes some good points. He is the only indian commentator I know of that understands the PLA's push into network centric warfare.My main critique is that, looking at his newest book, he doesn't really understand AI. Like he seems to portray Chinese AI more like skynet from Terminator rather then a bunch of algorithms improve productivity and speed.
I bought his new book and I couldn't read past beyond a few pages because as you said, his concept and understanding of AI and even the PLA's capabilities is being presented as this terminator like machinery. I will read it again and start where I left off since I paid for the darn book.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Indian military Chief's with overhyped and often quoted Marine General Jim Mattis held in India to coincide with G20.

Indian military seems to really cozy up to the Americans forsaking their long standing relationship with Russia @Sardaukar20 India is a cunning duplicitous country just like the west.

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mossen

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Indian military seems to really cozy up to the Americans forsaking their long standing relationship with Russia
They won't forsake it completely, they are smart enough not to do that. But it's clearly true that Indian imports of Russian arms have massively declined in the last decade as Modi has shifted to align himself ever-more closely with the West.

Indians understand that they stand no chance against China. They also believe Russia is too close to Beijing for the Indians to be comfortable in the event of a serious conflict.

I personally think the Russians would gladly arm the Indians if there was an outbreak of armed hostilities, given that China basically stopped buying stuff from Russia in recent years and has become almost entirely self-sufficient in a way that India obviously isn't.
 

Lethe

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A Chinese nationalist arguing that India's nuclear triad is so degraded in its capabilities that it doesn't deserve to be compared to the other major powers.


Don't have a strong opinion on this matter, but it was an interesting thread.

This is a bit silly. The "five nuclear weapons states" has nothing to do with spurning India owing to a judgment about its relative nuclear capabilities, it is that these are the five declared nuclear powers under the Non-Proliferation Treaty. India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea are outside that formal structure.

India's limited testing regime owes to its adherence to contemporary treaties and norms which have created a de facto moratorium on testing for the last several decades. One can reasonably argue that this disadvantages India and Pakistan more than the more established nuclear powers that had decades to refine their designs through real-world testing, but today all the nuclear powers (with the exception of North Korea) are in the same boat of using computer simulations to substitute for real-world testing. If India were to start testing again, Pakistan would follow suit, as would North Korea. China could well be tempted itself given the no doubt very significant advancements since its last real-world tests in 1996, and in a short space of time we could find ourselves back in the 1960s with nuclear tests being conducted on a regular basis all over the world. India arguably has more reason to be dissatisfied with the current testing moratorium than most and we should be thankful that they have not sought to break it.

The limitations of India's nuclear launch platforms are also well known. Arihant and K-4 may be very limited systems, but a decade ago there was no Arihant and no K-4. The direction is one of progress. It is entirely correct to note that India's nuclear deterrent is not in the same category as that of USA, Russia, China, or even France or the United Kingdom, but who ever claimed that it was? This is not exactly some shock revelation.
 
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