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Sardaukar20

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Sometimes there is just no helping facepalming at Indians…

On the topic of tech transfer… the Indians are constantly giving China shit on “forced” tech transfer… yet Indians does the exact same thing but fails to learn anything as evidenced by their failure to produce anything competent “indigenously” without massive input from others, either technical or material, even then the term competent is questionable, or via “joint research programs/ventures” where such programs are no better than tech transfers…

So what is there to transfer from a standard AK anymore… the general mechanisms and layout of a standard AK hasn’t changed significantly since the very first AK, apart from maybe some special models like AK 107, the production methods and materials… are Indians so incompetent that they can’t even adapt modern production methods and modern materials to a decades old design, I guess not since they still require tech transfer despite basically producing an AK in the form of the INSAS for like 2 decades… tho I guess it’s unfair, since they still managed to fail with the INSAS…

What’s more mind boggling is that the Indians are spending time and resources developing and trailing their own designed SMGs, 2 of them in fact, and one SMG caliber in the 5.56x30… yet they are either unwilling or failed at perfecting an AK derivative, like what Israel, Poland, Czechs, Finland and Hungary managed to do at one point of another in the past, never mind all the other “non-SupaPowa” that has managed to develop their own rifles, whether they are derivatives or otherwise.

There are some serious issues with the Indian priorities… small arms is like the lowest point of entry into military production nowadays and somehow they still managed to fail with one of the simplest decades old design, then refuse to stick with it and improve it instead seeking a tech transfer for what they basically already know how to do, I mean what are they expecting from the tech transfer at this point… an AK’s mechanism is already basically the simplest it can get… unless they are looking for a WW2/early Cold War era open bolt mechanism without fire selection, there really isn’t anything more simple then an AK…
Exactly. How much more assistance do they need to produce AK rifles?

Tribal villagers in Darra Adam Khel, a village in Pakistan can reproduce AKs and other famous firearms from their humble workshops. And this is already happening some years ago.
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They don't need no contract, no Transfer of Technology, and no formal training. Plus, they sell their reproduced AKs cheaper than those you can buy from Russia. Quality is questionable. But how much better are those Indian factory-manufactured INSAS rifles?
 

Mt1701d

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Exactly. How much more assistance do they need to produce AK rifles?

Tribal villagers in Darra Adam Khel, a village in Pakistan can reproduce AKs and other famous firearms from their humble workshops. And this is already happening some years ago.
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They don't need no contract, no Transfer of Technology, and no formal training. Plus, they sell their reproduced AKs cheaper than those you can buy from Russia. Quality is questionable. But how much better are those Indian factory-manufactured INSAS rifles?
I have to say this reminds me of the warlord era Chinese firearms just prior to WW2 where small workshops and individual blacksmiths replicate the then top of the line firearms… you end up with a lot of rather unique looking firearms like the left five hung on the rack in the last image…
 

sndef888

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Just found out that India is apparently doubling down on the Talwar class frigates, ordering another batch of 2 just this year, despite the class being almost 20 years old

Either they don't trust their israeli/western weapons or the Russian equipment is really quite good despite its age.
 

siegecrossbow

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Just found out that India is apparently doubling down on the Talwar class frigates, ordering another batch of 2 just this year, despite the class being almost 20 years old

Either they don't trust their israeli/western weapons or the Russian equipment is really quite good despite its age.

More likely explanation is that they are short on cash.
 

Gloire_bb

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Just found out that India is apparently doubling down on the Talwar class frigates, ordering another batch of 2 just this year, despite the class being almost 20 years old

Either they don't trust their israeli/western weapons or the Russian equipment is really quite good despite its age.
Talwars are very comparable to 054A frigates.
Same justifications, I guess - enough of a ship for reasonable money.
 

sndef888

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Indian naval procurement is such a mess. Their Kamorta class destroyer, Visakhapatnam class destroyer and Nilgiri class frigate are essentially the same thing, with similar displacements, same weapons (32 barak-8s, 8/16 Brahmos) and the same ugly israeli radar.

Yet they decided to split it into 3 classes for god knows why. It's also pretty funny their top destroyer is about as well armed as a tiny Israeli corvette.

One thing that's clear though, is the Indians have abandoned Russian radars and missiles for Israeli ones
 
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sheogorath

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Well, it makes sense since Russia doesn't have any naval APAR for export right now.

Doubt they are going to hand over Poliments or Zaslon's to india when they barely produce enough for themselves.
 

Xizor

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$3 billion Predator drone deal: India seeks clarity from US on price, tech transfer
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NEW DELHI: India has sought “more clarity” from the US on the price fixation, maintenance and
transfer of technology in the proposed $3 billion (around Rs 22,000 crore) deal to acquire 30 armed MQ-9B Predator drones, which are designed for long-range precision strikes against hostile targets on land and sea.
The mega procurement project will be moved for “acceptance of necessity (AoN)” by the Rajnath Singh-led Defence Acquisitions Council (DAC) once all the clarifications are provided by the US government, said sources on Tuesday.

The Indian armed forces have for long been looking to induct such fighter-sized “hunter-killer” drones, armed with air-to-ground missiles and smart bombs as well as capable of flying for almost 40 hours at a stretch, to boost their long-range unmanned lethal capabilities.
 

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