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siegecrossbow

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Indian ones got upgraded in 1990s, so they're actually BVR-capable.
Very limited BVR in terms of actual range, but still BVR.


Strictly speaking, bison is still credible enough. But they don't have anything to replace them in their role - Su-30MKI is a very different plane, and Mig-29UPGs together with first Rafales simply aren't numerous enough(the latter aren't designed and are too pricey for such use anyways).

Tejas was supposed to fill the role but delays happened.
 

ougoah

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Datalinks

India does not have CEC equivalent for their missiles. Datalinks at best can guide the Migs and present some target locations for them to chase down. It may mean they don't need a decent radar to find targets for themselves and can direct themselves towards their targets but datalinks won't help their radars engage targets at BVR missile ranges.
 

Gloire_bb

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India does not have CEC equivalent for their missiles. Datalinks at best can guide the Migs and present some target locations for them to chase down. It may mean they don't need a decent radar to find targets for themselves and can direct themselves towards their targets but datalinks won't help their radars engage targets at BVR missile ranges.
Actually they do, and this isn't even a very high-tech thing; it's simply doctrine-specific. India uses(or at least used) standard Soviet/Russian air combat(intercept) environments. It isn't something unique - NORAD was like this in the past; Sweden also had and has a broadly comparable system.

This "hands-off" ground-controlled intercept treats plane basically as a very large, reusable ARH missile, controlling it through the flight. GCI system includes, among other things, ground radar-cued aiming of fighter's intercept radar(through dedicated datalink), telling plane's radar when to switch on, where exactly to look, and even engaging the target.
This, in turn, allows for use of GCI-specific, concentrated, higher power search modes. And, consequently, allowed Soviet(Russian) fighters with their relatively lower-tech radars to remain highly competitive against often more advanced western planes within this friendly environment.

p.s. same reason behind current Russian love for very high emitting powers, btw.
 

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Indian Army wants futuristic main-battle tanks in mega ‘Make in India’ project​

The Army now wants advanced "shock and awe" capabilities in the shape of futuristic main-battle tanks, with a wide array of weapons, missiles and protection systems as well as "niche" technologies like "artificial intelligence" and "see-through armour" for the crew.
The Army has sought the response of foreign armament companies or OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) for the proposed mega "
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" project for induction of 1,770 “future ready combat vehicles (FRCVs)” in a phased manner.
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(request for information) specifies the Army expects induction of the FRCVs by 2030 under the "strategic partnership" route with "comprehensive" technology transfer, including detailed design manufacturing know-how, to the Indian partner.
The FRCVs will remain in service for the next 40-50 years as the
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's main battle tank, it says.In conformity with the "emerging future threat spectrum and technological advancements", the new "state-of-the art" and "technology-enabled" tank should be able to operate in varied terrains like high-altitude areas, plains, riverine and deserts, adds the RFI.



Why do India still need a technology transfer?

I have seen some images of plans for an Arjun tank evolution with a Russian T-14 style automated turret. Is that merely going to be a "validation" project?
 

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Indian Army wants futuristic main-battle tanks in mega ‘Make in India’ project​

The Army now wants advanced "shock and awe" capabilities in the shape of futuristic main-battle tanks, with a wide array of weapons, missiles and protection systems as well as "niche" technologies like "artificial intelligence" and "see-through armour" for the crew.
The Army has sought the response of foreign armament companies or OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) for the proposed mega "
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" project for induction of 1,770 “future ready combat vehicles (FRCVs)” in a phased manner.
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(request for information) specifies the Army expects induction of the FRCVs by 2030 under the "strategic partnership" route with "comprehensive" technology transfer, including detailed design manufacturing know-how, to the Indian partner.
The FRCVs will remain in service for the next 40-50 years as the
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's main battle tank, it says.In conformity with the "emerging future threat spectrum and technological advancements", the new "state-of-the art" and "technology-enabled" tank should be able to operate in varied terrains like high-altitude areas, plains, riverine and deserts, adds the RFI.



Why do India still need a technology transfer?

I have seen some images of plans for an Arjun tank evolution with a Russian T-14 style automated turret. Is that merely going to be a "validation" project?

Where are they going to field this monster of a tank?
 

ougoah

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Actually they do, and this isn't even a very high-tech thing; it's simply doctrine-specific. India uses(or at least used) standard Soviet/Russian air combat(intercept) environments. It isn't something unique - NORAD was like this in the past; Sweden also had and has a broadly comparable system.

This "hands-off" ground-controlled intercept treats plane basically as a very large, reusable ARH missile, controlling it through the flight. GCI system includes, among other things, ground radar-cued aiming of fighter's intercept radar(through dedicated datalink), telling plane's radar when to switch on, where exactly to look, and even engaging the target.
This, in turn, allows for use of GCI-specific, concentrated, higher power search modes. And, consequently, allowed Soviet(Russian) fighters with their relatively lower-tech radars to remain highly competitive against often more advanced western planes within this friendly environment.

p.s. same reason behind current Russian love for very high emitting powers, btw.

What you have described is not the CEC I'm referring to where an aircraft can fire missiles that are being fed data by another platform

What you're describing isn't a high tech thing and many had it operational for decades. CEC where missile flies off one platform, guided by another separate platform, fed data by the second or a third is CEC that India does not have. It's questionable India's navy even has this capability.
 

Xsizor

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What you have described is not the CEC I'm referring to where an aircraft can fire missiles that are being fed data by another platform

What you're describing isn't a high tech thing and many had it operational for decades. CEC where missile flies off one platform, guided by another separate platform, fed data by the second or a third is CEC that India does not have. It's questionable India's navy even has this capability.
The Wikipedia entry for CEC says Indian navy has demonstrated CEC (with the israeli MFSTAR radar - Barak missile combo).

Indian Air Force - none
 

ougoah

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The Wikipedia entry for CEC says Indian navy has demonstrated CEC (with the israeli MFSTAR radar - Barak missile combo).

Indian Air Force - none

Possibly. It's believable the Barak and MFSTAR are CECed. Unless the wiki entry is also misunderstanding CEC and it isn't talking about separate ships MFSTAR. Again it's becoming much more common with navies. Since barak 8 and MFSTAR are pretty modern, it's possible they have CEC... although the Barak 8 is kind of short ranged to make it that worthwhile. The strength of CEC is like J-20 flying ahead and painting targets and guiding PL-20/21/22 (whatever they're called) launched from J-16s.

I really doubt the Mig-21 has any form of CEC.
 

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