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Xsizor

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If you want to make allegations like that you should post some reputable sources. You haven't even posted where you found it, you've just posted an image you or I could have made. That's really not on.


Also, you're forgetting that the primary language of India is not English but Hindi. Putting aside the stereotyping about Indians using English for IT purposes, there's no actual reason for these "instructions" to have been made in English.

As much as this could be someone trying to create a bot farm, it also could have been done by someone wanting to undermine criticism of China's Xinjiang policies by pretending international opinion is manufactured.

Just like how Xinjiang had been cultivated as a talking point with no good sources or deep studies?

The primary Language of India isn't Hindi. It is however one of the largest spoken languages

India is known for its dependency on English (owing to the British Colonialism and oppressive rule) and a by product of this is its population having English proficiency (obviously limited). But good enough to operate massive scam centers targeting English speaking countries like US, Canada and UK.

India has expertise in disinformation tactics.
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The above is from a BBC News report.

Rupee Bot farms are therefore not fiction. It is a high yield, low investment capability.

I merely had to search with the keyword "Indian Social media bots" and got enough reports to prove that India might be the largest utilizer of this capability. Most of it is focused on internal politics of India but given a common adversary (China), it's only natural they leverage the capacity.

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Mr T

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BTW the original Pakistani poster said it was shared by an Indian poster on some corner of the internet.
So the source here is you hearing about it from some guy who heard about it from some other guy. That's worse than "a bloke down the pub told me X", because it's two persons removed from you, not one.

Indian lies are greater than the rest of world's put together almost.

It seems to me that you're admitting because you're suspicious of Indians you'll believe any story about them doing something duplicitous, even if there's no source you can try to verify for yourself.
 

Xsizor

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External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar completely ruled out the four-nation Quad ever evolving into a NATO-like structure.

“Military alliances have never been India’s heritage... The people who use NATO-kind of analogy either don’t understand us at all and don’t know what our Independence means to us. One explanation I have is complete ignorance and lack of understanding of the Indian mindset,” he said at All India Management Association’s (AIMA) National Leadership Conclave today.

Jaishankar suggested a military alliance would be tantamount to abandoning India’s independence of approach. On Quad, he said it was very reasonable in international relations to have countries with convergences and shared interests to work together.

“But I wouldn’t exaggerate and wrongly create the imagery of a NATO military alliance, cold war etc. That has never been India’s heritage. During the cold war also, we stayed away from NATO,” he added. Jaishankar’s outright rejection of the Quad evolving into an Asian NATO comes at a time when border talks with China and peace talks with Pakistan are stalemated.




Three things that may have influenced these statements

1. The Russian objections to the Quad. Sergey Lavrov came down with an intent.

2. The faltering Indian economy and Coronavirus situation.

3. The US snub to India with their announcements declaring FONOPS in waters that India considers comes under her laws.
 
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ougoah

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So the source here is you hearing about it from some guy who heard about it from some other guy. That's worse than "a bloke down the pub told me X", because it's two persons removed from you, not one.



It seems to me that you're admitting because you're suspicious of Indians you'll believe any story about them doing something duplicitous, even if there's no source you can try to verify for yourself.

I was explaining that the original post from the Indian was shared online. It wasn't through some whatsapp group or mass email to IT cell trolls.

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No, because I only see Indians (often wearing false flags and false names) spamming the english part of the internet with vile material, lies, clear propaganda, and exaggerations. They will deserve and receive the like so I don't care. They set themselves up for misery and failure but it's now funny and much less effective partly because it's so obvious and over done. Even the most China hating places of the West are not all that anti-China on the whole and the rest of the world much more balanced and less caring about false morality lecturing. So since it's plenty common for exactly that type of Indian trolling, an example of a message doesn't prove it. It's not necessary. That screenshot of the IT Cell troll instruction message doesn't "prove" anything. It doesn't need to. It's already too obvious. Who cares, China marches on despite losers wailing and trolling in pain while India gets slammed in all holes non stop. It's divine balance.
 

ougoah

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External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar completely ruled out the four-nation Quad ever evolving into a NATO-like structure.

“Military alliances have never been India’s heritage... The people who use NATO-kind of analogy either don’t understand us at all and don’t know what our Independence means to us. One explanation I have is complete ignorance and lack of understanding of the Indian mindset,” he said at All India Management Association’s (AIMA) National Leadership Conclave today.

Jaishankar suggested a military alliance would be tantamount to abandoning India’s independence of approach. On Quad, he said it was very reasonable in international relations to have countries with convergences and shared interests to work together.

“But I wouldn’t exaggerate and wrongly create the imagery of a NATO military alliance, cold war etc. That has never been India’s heritage. During the cold war also, we stayed away from NATO,” he added. Jaishankar’s outright rejection of the Quad evolving into an Asian NATO comes at a time when border talks with China and peace talks with Pakistan are stalemated.




Three things that may have influenced these statements

1. The Russian objections to the Quad. Sergey Lavrov came down with an intent.

2. The faltering Indian economy and Coronavirus situation.

3. The US snub to India with their announcements declaring FONOPS in waters that India considers comes under her laws.

US conducting FONOPS on India is both unsurprising since India does sort of have differing operations and views on EEZ.

BUT what they don't ask and mention is why is US choosing now to do it when they could have (and should have since there is no difference) done it years even decades ago?

The timing and choice by the US to conduct this is both to make it a statement to the world that it's not just "picking" on China wrt EEZ and FONOPS. It could also be a means to communicate its displeasure with how Modi's performing lol. A reminder that they can swing at anyone including India whenever it is displeased about something.
 

Xsizor

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US conducting FONOPS on India is both unsurprising since India does sort of have differing operations and views on EEZ.

BUT what they don't ask and mention is why is US choosing now to do it when they could have (and should have since there is no difference) done it years even decades ago?

The timing and choice by the US to conduct this is both to make it a statement to the world that it's not just "picking" on China wrt EEZ and FONOPS. It could also be a means to communicate its displeasure with how Modi's performing lol. A reminder that they can swing at anyone including India whenever it is displeased about something.
I see it as an error from the part of US. From other forums, I got the idea that the FONOPS in itself wasn't the issue but how US announced it - apparently causing India to lose face. The US has previously conducted FONOPS near India.
 

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