Mainly big paranoia ! and he don't know what is a OPV nah
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Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
The deployment of troop and equipment to tibet has started
Alot of APC and IFC
"Modern states need boundaries, not borders, not frontiers - Boundaries," Neville Maxwell told Xinhua recently.
"A boundary is a line jointly agreed between two neighboring states in a process of diplomatic negotiations, jointly marked out on the ground and sealed in a treaty - that makes a boundary."
For Maxwell, India's repeated signs of aggression and failure to comply with international law stems from two great delusions of the former British colony.
The first is the false narrative that Chinese forces were the instigators in the 1962 conflict and the second is the belief of the Indian ruling class that the country's borders can be drafted unilaterally.
Under the pretence of the illegal "McMahon Line" which is never recognized by China, India at the time declared a number of southwestern Chinese regions as their own and continued to push those areas forward in an attempt to grow their territory.
"In the mid 1930s, the British became apprehensive about a resurgent China and decided they should have a boundary, so they made one unilaterally, without consulting China."
Alot of APC and IFC
"Modern states need boundaries, not borders, not frontiers - Boundaries," Neville Maxwell told Xinhua recently.
"A boundary is a line jointly agreed between two neighboring states in a process of diplomatic negotiations, jointly marked out on the ground and sealed in a treaty - that makes a boundary."
For Maxwell, India's repeated signs of aggression and failure to comply with international law stems from two great delusions of the former British colony.
The first is the false narrative that Chinese forces were the instigators in the 1962 conflict and the second is the belief of the Indian ruling class that the country's borders can be drafted unilaterally.
Under the pretence of the illegal "McMahon Line" which is never recognized by China, India at the time declared a number of southwestern Chinese regions as their own and continued to push those areas forward in an attempt to grow their territory.
"In the mid 1930s, the British became apprehensive about a resurgent China and decided they should have a boundary, so they made one unilaterally, without consulting China."
Yeah its about freaking time China start to deploy, they are a month late!!! What nation gets its land invaded and then... just "talk". China have lost a lot of face in this, if they don't solve this one way or the other, everyone is going to walk all over China, because hey guys, go ahead invade China, they will just offer to "talk" for a "peaceful resolutions"
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Well if I remember correctly the Iraq invasion take months of preparation beside you should give peace a chance But you are right the door is closing fast with the onset of winter
Going by precedence here is what Neville Maxwell has to say
Despite the growing risk to their sovereignty, Chinese forces in the years prior to 1962 did not engage in conflict with the Indian side. China instead issued a series of warnings and urged India to hold negotiations.
"Those warnings became more and more explicit but constantly ignored until October 1962, the Chinese at last met this constant Indian military pressure with an overwhelming, crushing counterattack."
According to Maxwell, the devastating battle was a humiliation for India's political class and viewed by the Indian government as a stark warning by China.
"(China as the aggressor) was a misconception, fostered of course by India, which put forward the absurd lie that they had been the victim of unprovoked Chinese aggression," Maxwell said.
"But that is not the case, they brought a Chinese counter attack upon themselves by their own wrong-headed border policy."
Going by precedence here is what Neville Maxwell has to say
Despite the growing risk to their sovereignty, Chinese forces in the years prior to 1962 did not engage in conflict with the Indian side. China instead issued a series of warnings and urged India to hold negotiations.
"Those warnings became more and more explicit but constantly ignored until October 1962, the Chinese at last met this constant Indian military pressure with an overwhelming, crushing counterattack."
According to Maxwell, the devastating battle was a humiliation for India's political class and viewed by the Indian government as a stark warning by China.
"(China as the aggressor) was a misconception, fostered of course by India, which put forward the absurd lie that they had been the victim of unprovoked Chinese aggression," Maxwell said.
"But that is not the case, they brought a Chinese counter attack upon themselves by their own wrong-headed border policy."
Blah blah blah....... China is getting a round house kick in the face from India right now. All this high-tech toys shown in the media is useless when anybody can occupy and sit on your territory and you don't even have the balls to kick them out. That is why I say, and will keep saying, China will never be a true military power, it just lacks the bravado. Just imagine anyone trying the same s**t that India is doing to China against Russia or US or even Britain, the trespasser would beaten up, shredded and thrown into the dust before we could even blink. But China just doesn't have the balls, or the confidence. China has tied itself into a self-made straitjacket by always worrying about what others say, what the West will say etc etc. As I said, it take more than just some fancy High-Tech equipments to win and to be a true military power. Sadly, the way I see things till now, China just lack that extra 'thing 'to push them into Superpower status.
If India plays its card wisely, it is sure to benefit a lot from Military deals with the West. But India has the habit of botching one deal after the other. The latest one being the Rafale deal. The Rafale with the Meteor integrated would be a formidable asset for the IAF. But no one knows when this deal will get through and we might even grow old waiting for the deliveries to be completed lol
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
China thinks more strategically than you do in a world that mostly tries to keep China down. It's really easy to get angry and attack someone and not think about how to deal with the aftermath in a comprehensive picture. If China decided to immediately hit India, then what if India escalates and brings its main forces to fight? Then China will need to put a large amount of resources to the Western border to beat up India. Sure. Then the US generals see a great opportunity to attack North Korea and with South Korean commandos, take as much North Korea territory as possible. China's troops on the eastern front become thin, and reinforcements are in Tibet to fight India; they can't answer so the US/SK seize more North Korean territory. What do you do? The US urges Taiwan to declare independence in this quagmire. Now you need troops there too. What do you do? Fight a 3-front war? What are the chances of winning all 3? Which do you prioritize?
China is certainly not restraining itself because of what others might say or it would have never built those militarized islands in the SCS. It calculates what others might do.
China rose in times of weakness to its current strength by strategy. Lashing out and taking the bait to be drawn into multiple conflicts while Chinese power hasn't risen to a level where it can confidently win all of them is a huge strategic blunder. Sometimes, you need more brains than "balls."
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Hold your horses it is never too late to declare war until all avenue of peace has been exhausted
It is easy for you to say that it was not your brother who is sent to the front
Every government has a duty to preserve peace war should be used as a last resort.
And you think war is walk in park? It take a lot of preparation as shown in Iraq invasion
It is easy for you to say that it was not your brother who is sent to the front
Every government has a duty to preserve peace war should be used as a last resort.
And you think war is walk in park? It take a lot of preparation as shown in Iraq invasion
Ok Ok I know this is the Indian Military news thread, but hope the mods will let me get away this once.
You mean to say that China can't fight a two-front war? That it isn't capable of defending its interests in multiple scenerios? That its military is only capable of fighting in a one-dimensional scenerio? That it simply doesn't have the capability, or more importantly the will to defend its own territory because it 'thinks' that some unforessen circumstances might pop up? You mean China should never be surprised and that it should know every scenerio and maybe even know the future in advance before it can even act to defend its own territory or have the guts to defend itself? If it is so, China maybe even less of a Military power than many would imagine. Reading and thinking about the current impasse (inside Chinese territory occupied by India) at the border, I tend to think that there is a strategic fear of failure within the Chinese military and that psyche runs deep, so deep that, as I stated previously, it binds China into a straitjacket. And yes, one needs brains to succeed in anything, but sometimes in a conflict, sheer 'balls' do let you win. Do not discount the value of sheer 'balls', coz all that 'brains' would count for nothing if you lack the 'balls' to act. Case closed.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
From Henri K blog
The elements seem to suggest that the Chinese army are massing progressively in Tibet. When the Chinese no longer speak, they act ...
The elements seem to suggest that the Chinese army are massing progressively in Tibet. When the Chinese no longer speak, they act ...