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ougoah

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Is Chinese railways to Laos purposeful or profitable?
Forget that tell me is chinese railways to Tibbet purposeful or Profitable?

I don't know the profits.

But how are these relevant to the discussion? I said we will see if Indian PLANNED rail to ASEAN turn out to be purposeful or profitable. India PLANS on doing xyz. Whether it can is one question, whether it can do it in an acceptable time frame is another question, whether it turns out to be purposeful or profitable is the last question.

You still haven't provided information on India's supposed rail building prowess. You talked about it, your proposed that it is, and when asked for some indication that it is, you provided some link on how great india is at building roads... which turns out to be not very in actuality.

Instead of answering the question and staying on topic, you ask this. Well China's railways to Tibet certainly is purposeful. China's internal rail in certainly purposeful. China's railways to other nations are all purposeful no doubt and in some cases also profitable. India's to ASEAN could be too but it hasn't started building any yet. We have no idea how long it would take and how much it would cost. Not that I care but that was the line of discussion before I interjected with pointing out you talking about roads when the whole conversation was about rail simply because India isn't actually proficient at building rail... of any sort and totally incapable of building HSR rail at the moment.
 

ougoah

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It's always something india wants to do and wants to tell everyone how great it will be. Why not show what it has done. Sure a rail route to ASEAN may be something India sets to doing and turns out great. Why are we talking about it here though? China may have bases on Mars by the time that's completed but we don't talk about that in the China economics thread.

If the subtext of all this is about India reaching out to ASEAN to "contain" China well LOL. That is a poor understanding of reality and how the politics in south east Asia really is like, how human nature really is like. Sorry but as long as China develops, ASEAN will only want to establish good relations and increase two way trade. CATL is opening a manufacturing plant in Indonesia. Many Chinese electronics companies have opened up factories and centres in India. Chinese car makers even state owned ones have opened factories in India - SAIC has a MG factory in India and so on.

India wanting to integrate with rest of Asia including China and others is exclusive with India attempting to contain China via this proposed planned railway route. If the desire is to simply establish India ASEAN trade then it should get on with it.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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It's always something india wants to do and wants to tell everyone how great it will be. Why not show what it has done. Sure a rail route to ASEAN may be something India sets to doing and turns out great. Why are we talking about it here though? China may have bases on Mars by the time that's completed but we don't talk about that in the China economics thread.

If the subtext of all this is about India reaching out to ASEAN to "contain" China well LOL. That is a poor understanding of reality and how the politics in south east Asia really is like, how human nature really is like. Sorry but as long as China develops, ASEAN will only want to establish good relations and increase two way trade. CATL is opening a manufacturing plant in Indonesia. Many Chinese electronics companies have opened up factories and centres in India. Chinese car makers even state owned ones have opened factories in India - SAIC has a MG factory in India and so on.

India wanting to integrate with rest of Asia including China and others is exclusive with India attempting to contain China via this proposed planned railway route. If the desire is to simply establish India ASEAN trade then it should get on with it.
Me thinks he is in love with the board game 'Ticket to Ride', where you must build railways to win. His idea of success is owning railways.

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Strangelove

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Still screaming Jai Hind! Buy India-made! Boycott China!!! Arr!!!!!!... on their Xiaomi phones.

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Chinese mobile giant Xiaomi Corp ranked top in terms of smartphone shipments in India for the 18th consecutive quarter, the company’s Q1 financial report showed on Thursday. This came before the firm’s recent dispute with the Indian authorities, which led to $725 million worth of Xiaomi’s assets being seized in April for allegedly breaching India’s foreign exchange laws.

According to the financial report, in the three months ended March 31, Xiaomi’s unaudited revenues in markets other than the mainland stood at 37.46 billion yuan ($5.55 billion), up from 37.41 billion yuan in the first three quarters of 2021.

Revenues from overseas markets accounted for 51 percent of the company’s overall income in the first quarter, and the main sources were India and Europe, Xiaomi noted in the financial report.

Xiaomi also reported that the company’s smartphone shipments ranked top in India for the 18th consecutive quarter in the first three months. It didn’t reveal specific financial data in the Indian market.

In April, India’s anti-money laundering agency seized assets worth about $725 million from Xiaomi India for allegedly breaching the country’s foreign exchange laws, in what is considered a big blow to the Chinese phone maker.

India has been one of the most important overseas markets for Xiaomi. In the first quarter of 2021, Xiaomi’s smartphone shipments in India accounted for about 23 percent of the country’s overall phone shipments, followed by Samsung and Realme, according to data released by analysis company Counterpoint.

Xiaomi’s president Wang Xiang said in a press conference on Thursday that Xiaomi India has insisted on operating in line with local laws. The company will keep up communication with India and hopes to reach a consensus. The company has also made some personnel adjustments to better cope with the situation.
Independent tech analyst Fu Liang told the Global Times that the buying power of Indian consumers is relatively weak, and therefore the cost-effective phones made by Xiaomi have become popular in the country.

Also, Xiaomi’s efforts to integrate with India’s local resources, such as by setting up local factories, helps its entrance and growth in the Indian market, Fu said.

In early 2021, Xiaomi revealed plans to open two new mobile manufacturing plants and a television plant in India.

Fu said India is starting to realize that it can use its market advantages to stimulate its own production power, and it tends toward localization policies. It is also intensifying restrictions on certain forms of overseas investment, especially in terms of internet apps.

“But when it comes to low added value products like smartphones, I don’t think they will do what the US does to Huawei,” Fu told the Global Times.

He also said that there remains a certain anti-China sentiment in India, and it’s unclear if India will intensify efforts to push out Chinese companies. But if India’s business environment does not change too drastically, Xiaomi’s business operation in the country is unlikely to be heavily affected.

“I believe Xiaomi can find a win-win solution with the Indian government and its Indian partners, and will manage to get its share of profits out of cooperation with them,” he said.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Still screaming Jai Hind! Buy India-made! Boycott China!!! Arr!!!!!!... on their Xiaomi phones.

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Chinese mobile giant Xiaomi Corp ranked top in terms of smartphone shipments in India for the 18th consecutive quarter, the company’s Q1 financial report showed on Thursday. This came before the firm’s recent dispute with the Indian authorities, which led to $725 million worth of Xiaomi’s assets being seized in April for allegedly breaching India’s foreign exchange laws.

According to the financial report, in the three months ended March 31, Xiaomi’s unaudited revenues in markets other than the mainland stood at 37.46 billion yuan ($5.55 billion), up from 37.41 billion yuan in the first three quarters of 2021.

Revenues from overseas markets accounted for 51 percent of the company’s overall income in the first quarter, and the main sources were India and Europe, Xiaomi noted in the financial report.

Xiaomi also reported that the company’s smartphone shipments ranked top in India for the 18th consecutive quarter in the first three months. It didn’t reveal specific financial data in the Indian market.

In April, India’s anti-money laundering agency seized assets worth about $725 million from Xiaomi India for allegedly breaching the country’s foreign exchange laws, in what is considered a big blow to the Chinese phone maker.

India has been one of the most important overseas markets for Xiaomi. In the first quarter of 2021, Xiaomi’s smartphone shipments in India accounted for about 23 percent of the country’s overall phone shipments, followed by Samsung and Realme, according to data released by analysis company Counterpoint.

Xiaomi’s president Wang Xiang said in a press conference on Thursday that Xiaomi India has insisted on operating in line with local laws. The company will keep up communication with India and hopes to reach a consensus. The company has also made some personnel adjustments to better cope with the situation.
Independent tech analyst Fu Liang told the Global Times that the buying power of Indian consumers is relatively weak, and therefore the cost-effective phones made by Xiaomi have become popular in the country.

Also, Xiaomi’s efforts to integrate with India’s local resources, such as by setting up local factories, helps its entrance and growth in the Indian market, Fu said.

In early 2021, Xiaomi revealed plans to open two new mobile manufacturing plants and a television plant in India.

Fu said India is starting to realize that it can use its market advantages to stimulate its own production power, and it tends toward localization policies. It is also intensifying restrictions on certain forms of overseas investment, especially in terms of internet apps.

“But when it comes to low added value products like smartphones, I don’t think they will do what the US does to Huawei,” Fu told the Global Times.

He also said that there remains a certain anti-China sentiment in India, and it’s unclear if India will intensify efforts to push out Chinese companies. But if India’s business environment does not change too drastically, Xiaomi’s business operation in the country is unlikely to be heavily affected.

“I believe Xiaomi can find a win-win solution with the Indian government and its Indian partners, and will manage to get its share of profits out of cooperation with them,” he said.
I admire whoever gets assigned to India market. They'll probably come off with PTSD.
 

Chandragupt

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I don't know the profits.

But how are these relevant to the discussion? I said we will see if Indian PLANNED rail to ASEAN turn out to be purposeful or profitable. India PLANS on doing xyz. Whether it can is one question, whether it can do it in an acceptable time frame is another question, whether it turns out to be purposeful or profitable is the last question.

You still haven't provided information on India's supposed rail building prowess. You talked about it, your proposed that it is, and when asked for some indication that it is, you provided some link on how great india is at building roads... which turns out to be not very in actuality.

Instead of answering the question and staying on topic, you ask this. Well China's railways to Tibet certainly is purposeful. China's internal rail in certainly purposeful. China's railways to other nations are all purposeful no doubt and in some cases also profitable. India's to ASEAN could be too but it hasn't started building any yet. We have no idea how long it would take and how much it would cost. Not that I care but that was the line of discussion before I interjected with pointing out you talking about roads when the whole conversation was about rail simply because India isn't actually proficient at building rail... of any sort and totally incapable of building HSR rail at the moment.
India has world’s 4th largest railway network in the world they have laid railway tracks from kashmir in north to Kanyakumari in south and From itanagar in North East to kandla in Gujrat in west crossing huge mountains rivers and deserts and you think Indian railways cannot extend it’s network till Singapore?
And they have achieved 100% electrification of their railways , construction of Mumbai-Delhi-Kolkata dedicated freight corridor is set to be completed by 2024
Watch this video
 

NiuBiDaRen

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India has world’s 4th largest railway network in the world they have laid railway tracks from kashmir in north to Kanyakumari in south and From itanagar in North East to kandla in Gujrat in west crossing huge mountains rivers and deserts and you think Indian railways cannot extend it’s network till Singapore?
And they have achieved 100% electrification of their railways , construction of Mumbai-Delhi-Kolkata dedicated freight corridor is set to be completed by 2024
Watch this video
Please keep it coming. You are a source of entertainment during this sordid week.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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@Chandragupt I heard India is building a railway from Siberia to Alaska, connecting Eurasia to Americas?

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