Hong-Kong Protests

hullopilllw

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Hahahaha, Boris is basically Trump-lite. He isn't as stupid but still a fool nonetheless. Literally the whole point of Brexit was because his racist and white supremacist supporters hated non-white immigrants. Imagine their shock if Boris gave refugee status to 3 million Hong Kong

China should give the EU access to our market and open up our economy to EU companies. We should make peace with India and the SCS dispute. At the same time we need to push the RMB to be more widely accepted, and build up our alliance. We should also continue to upgrade our military and be credible defense for our allies. Instead of fighting with our neighbors let's make peace with them, so we can focus on countering the United States.

Meanwhile Australia can continue coaxxing India to open up her agricultural market and import Australian dairy products, ores. Britain will probably go down that route too if her politicians keep making all the wrong choices.
 
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Not sure why you post and propagate this false and dishonest narrative. The DM article states "
Chinese state media warns the UK to prepare for 'substantial damage' to the economy after Boris Johnson stood up to Beijing and offered refuge to Hong Kong people"
based on an article from the Global Times here. It reads like a punitive threat was being made, which is not the case.

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DailyMail gives a false narrative because the global times article, which they fail to reference, was not an aggressive intimidation or threat and is more a rebuttal to British politicians and media's aggressive attack to sacrifice free trade agreement with China over HK.

Global Times is saying that first, these politicians and media are wrong to associate HK National Security Law, which is a Chinese affair, with a free trade agreement. Second They are also wrong to believe that Britain can penalize China without substantially damaging themselves more by not agreeing to a FTA.

Nowhere was a aggressive threat made as was implied by dailymail article.

Without context. you are just propagating the british falsehood propaganda. Just saying.
 
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hullopilllw

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Not sure why you post and propagate this false and dishonest narrative. The DM article states "
Chinese state media warns the UK to prepare for 'substantial damage' to the economy after Boris Johnson stood up to Beijing and offered refuge to Hong Kong people"
based on an article from the Global Times here. It reads like a punitive threat was being made, which is not the case.

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DailyMail gives a false narrative because the global times article, which they fail to reference, was not an aggressive intimidation or threat and is more a rebuttal to British politicians and media's aggressive attack to sacrifice free trade agreement with China over HK.

Global Times is saying that first, these politicians and media are wrong to associate HK National Security Law, which is a Chinese affair, with a free trade agreement. Second They are also wrong to believe that Britain can penalize China without substantially damaging themselves more by not agreeing to a FTA.

Nowhere was a aggressive threat made as was implied by dailymail article.

Without context. you are just propagating the british falsehood propaganda. Just saying.

Chill down bro. I am pasting the link to show how the british side is attempting to spin it like China is a bully and threatening them. I am sure the members here can read for themselves.
 
Chill down bro. I am pasting the link to show how the british side is attempting to spin it like China is a bully and threatening them. I am sure the members here can read for themselves.

You are in danger of very wishful thinking to assume so,
First, We have a worldwide membership in this forum.
Second, DailyMail has a shitty tabloid website and difficult to read. People read the title and do not bother to investigate further.
Third, the article did not provide a link to the Global Times Article.

Better if you can add a comment on what you intend to convey.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Chill down bro. I am pasting the link to show how the british side is attempting to spin it like China is a bully and threatening them. I am sure the members here can read for themselves.

The Daily Fail has always been rabidly anti-China and is not a remotely accurate flection of anyone other than the extreme rights views in the U.K.

Ironically, you can also rest assured that the Daily Fail will also be the ones complaining the hardest and invoking the most offensive racist stereotypes and language they can get away with if and when masses of deplorables from HK start taking up Boris’ idiotic offer and start arriving in number in the UK.
 

AndrewS

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Then it's strange that the Chinese government is extremely quick to make public threats. It's not very smart being aggressive diplomatically if it actually wants to settle things in private, as it makes it harder for the other country to back down.

I said the preference is to deal with issues quietly in the background, and that used to be the norm.

This still happens in Asia because everyone operates in the same way.

But increasingly, the Chinese government sees that there is no point in such a conciliatory approach with the 5-Eyes countries tied to the USA.

So China is adopting the US approach, which is to publicly criticise and threaten.
Then use its heft to intimidate/force/persuade/buy the other side.

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As for the speed of the response, the Chinese government has been planning this for many months now.

It knew there was going to be heavy criticism, but went ahead anyway.
And presumably decided that they didn't need to take any sh*t from anyone for their actions.
The objective of which is to prevent months and months of chaos on the streets from happening again, but that will kill Hong Kong completely.
 

Gatekeeper

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I said the preference is to deal with issues quietly in the background, and that used to be the norm.

This still happens in Asia because everyone operates in the same way.

But increasingly, the Chinese government sees that there is no point in such a conciliatory approach with the 5-Eyes countries tied to the USA.

So China is adopting the US approach, which is to publicly criticise and threaten.
Then use its heft to intimidate/force/persuade/buy the other side.

---
As for the speed of the response, the Chinese government has been planning this for many months now.

It knew there was going to be heavy criticism, but went ahead anyway.
And presumably decided that they didn't need to take any sh*t from anyone for their actions.
The objective of which is to prevent months and months of chaos on the streets from happening again, but that will kill Hong Kong completely.

Andrews, Don't feed the Mr Troll. He has a closed mind. He just argues in circles. And when get called out, he ignore the truth hoping it'll go away.

Meanwhile here's Joshua Wong getting upset with Korea.

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Rest of the article from sing tao daily. It's in Chinese I'm afraid.

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@dankris

Great catch! I never knew that Hong Kong democracy is so young and if Hong Kong ever return to being a British colony its citizen will actually lose their right to vote. There goes another argument for returning to British rule and the romanticism of that era in Hong Kong history. I guess if Hong kongese can get used to living under a governor appointed by the British Crown, they can get used to living under a governor appointed by Beijing.

Yes, an inconvient truth. The Great British empire was so confident in itself, it wouldn't even offered their subjects in Hong Kong the same democratic rights they have been telling the world everyone should have.

The democracy Hong Kong enjoys now is ALL down to China, ironic really!
 
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hullopilllw

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I said the preference is to deal with issues quietly in the background, and that used to be the norm.

This still happens in Asia because everyone operates in the same way.

But increasingly, the Chinese government sees that there is no point in such a conciliatory approach with the 5-Eyes countries tied to the USA.

So China is adopting the US approach, which is to publicly criticise and threaten.
Then use its heft to intimidate/force/persuade/buy the other side.

---
As for the speed of the response, the Chinese government has been planning this for many months now.

It knew there was going to be heavy criticism, but went ahead anyway.
And presumably decided that they didn't need to take any sh*t from anyone for their actions.
The objective of which is to prevent months and months of chaos on the streets from happening again, but that will kill Hong Kong completely.

You are trying to explain a matter objectively to someone who is judging through a coloured len.
 

hullopilllw

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Andrews, Don't feed the Mr Troll. He has a closed mind. He just argues in circles. And when get called out, he ignore the truth hoping it'll go away.

Meanwhile here's Joshua Wong getting upset with Korea.

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Rest of the article from sing tao daily. It's in Chinese I'm afraid.

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@dankris

Great catch! I never knew that Hong Kong democracy is so young and if Hong Kong ever return to being a British colony its citizen will actually lose their right to vote. There goes another argument for returning to British rule and the romanticism of that era in Hong Kong history. I guess if Hong kongese can get used to living under a governor appointed by the British Crown, they can get used to living under a governor appointed by Beijing.

Yes, an inconvient truth. The Great British empire was so confident in itself, it wouldn't even offered their subjects in Hong Kong the same democratic rights they have been telling the world everyone should have.

The democracy Hong Kong enjoys now is ALL down to China, ironic really!

Who is he, how much has he even contributed to the economy of HK to consider his own voice as having any form, if any, of authority over PRC issue. Other than being a useful channel for subversive foreign influence, his entire existence is of no value.
 
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