Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper

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I'm hearing an increasing amount of opinion on talkback radio that countries that had the virus during Feb, March, April, and May will see it gone by October. For us in NZ it is nothing more than a 6month event. Hmmm I hope they are right.
what happen in 1962? you meant 1967 ?

Oh 1967, I remember it well. I'm now showing my age, but no matter, because unlike western culture, Chinese culture respect age and wisdom. Lol.

Anyway I was a mere young boy watching the scene unfolding in my very eyes from the tower block.

Here's a clip of how the British deal with protestors. Sub-machine guns, barbed wire. Indeed, we lied we cheat Pompeo was right in this respect. Hong Kong is different to when it was a colony!

 

Gatekeeper

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US stands with the people of Iraq.
US stands with the people of Afghanistan.
US stands with the people of Libya.
US stands with the people of Syria.

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It is not the fact the "sanction" that's annoying, as I said before, I think the impact would be minimal because capitalist will always go where the money is. And at the moment is in China......... via Hong Kong.

The annoying bit is, it is the cheek that USA feel like it can interfere in another country's affairs when ever it feel like it. So yeah,

US stands with.......... put your name here.
 

Laviduce

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Is the no real justice under western led world order ? Hate something ? Simply label it an issue of freedom/human rights/democracy, then proceed with economic coercion/armed intervention. Thats pretty much the only procedure in the playbook of their free and fair world order. Are western pretending to be oblivious or really thinking they are the heroes the world need。

A lot of westerners have been brainwashed for literally decades by their media that usually tows the US propaganda line when it comes to China, Russia, or any other nation that does not follow US orders or US interests. Do not forget that a lot of western media networks are connected to organizations like the Atlantic Bridge and other US organizations to infiltrate, control or influence their vassals in Europe and elsewhere.

Then there are of course the people in high places that have started to genuinely believe their own lies and deceptions concerning China, Russia or any other country that follows an independent policy that does not follow US orders or US interests.

It seems when it comes to China and Russia that there is a prevailing believe among western fundamentalists (e.g. US Neocons/Neolibs) that you just have to kick in the door and the entire rotten Chinese (or Russian) structure will collapse. These attitudes are a recipe for disaster.
 

Laviduce

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Almost certain German would do exactly like France do

Germany is still to a large extent a US vassal state. They often tow the US line especially if there is the CDU party in charge of affairs in Berlin. Look at what Berlin did when Russia responded to the US organized and US funded coup in Ukraine in 2014. They went on to sanction Russia and not their overlords across the pond (for obvious reasons). Projects like Nordstream 2 are the exception to the rule !
 

antiterror13

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Germany is still to a large extent a US vassal state. They often tow the US line especially if there is the CDU party in charge of affairs in Berlin. Look at what Berlin did when Russia responded to the US organized and US funded coup in Ukraine in 2014. They went on to sanction Russia and not their overlords across the pond (for obvious reasons). Projects like Nordstream 2 are the exception to the rule !

not true at all ....
 

hullopilllw

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First sanction on Nord Stream II, then it wont be long for the soon to be commerce Power of Siberia II.

Energy Security for Chinese Act
 

Mr T

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A lot of westerners have been brainwashed for literally decades by their media that usually tows the US propaganda line when it comes to China, Russia, or any other nation that does not follow US orders or US interests.

I don't think it's helpful accusing people you disagree with as being brainwashed, except for very exceptional cases like North Korea, where people live in fear of them and their extended families being imprisoned and tortured over otherwise innocent comments.

The fact that a lot of media opinion pieces in North America and Europe may be critical of the CCP does not mean that the local populations are brainwashed. Pro-CCP opinions can be easily accessed. There's no need to use a VPN or dodge some sort of state-imposed block. There's also no state-based punishment for agreeing with the CCP. Also, historically on issues like Taiwan there were actually a lot of pro-CCP opinions even in the mainstream media, largely because at the time the view was "better not annoy China, just pretend it's not an issue, don't sell arms because it's the wrong time", etc.

Bringing the discussion to the topic at hand (Hong Kong), it's important to remember that disagreeing with young Hong Kongese/the protesters doesn't mean they're incapable of rational thought. They have easy access to a much wider body of media than people in mainland China do. There are lots of pro-government TV stations, radio channels and newspapers in HK. Also, ironically, this upsurge in political awareness is partly down to the HK government pushing critical thinking classes years ago because they were worried about rote-based learning.

If a discussion can largely be reduced to "X is brainwashed, therefore I win", it's not being held in good faith.
 
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Top legislature adopts decision on national security legislation for HK
By Zhang Yangfei | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-05-28 15:10
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File photo: Hong Kong's city view. [Photo/Agencies]

China's legislature voted on Thursday to pass a decision on establishing and improving Hong Kong's legal framework and enforcement mechanisms to safeguard national security.

The decision was a major measure to perfect the "one country, two systems" principle, said Li Zhanshu, chairman of the National People's Congress Standing Committee.

Li said at the closing meeting of the third session of the 13th NPC that the decision was in accordance with China's Constitution and Hong Kong's Basic law and concerned the fundamental interests of all Chinese people, including Hong Kong compatriots.

The NPC Standing Committee will formulate laws for Hong Kong to safeguard national security, national sovereignty and the interests of safe development in a bid to protect Hong Kong's long-term stability and prosperity and ensure the "one country, two systems" principle progresses smoothly and far, Li added.
 
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