Hong-Kong Protests

B.I.B.

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Yes, this is the video I was talking about. He was trying to do a U turn to escape, but ended up plowing into them!

And the journalists got petrol bombed takes the busicuit in MSM reporting. Come on it is one of tou lot that got hurt!

You can't get more first hand news than that! Lol

I saw that on the television where it was reported that a Beijing supporter delibrately ran his taxi into a crowd of democracy demostraters.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
I saw that on the television where it was reported that a Beijing supporter delibrately ran his taxi into a crowd of democracy demostraters.

There are rumors from witnesses, although not necessarily true, that the driver was speaking Mandarin and was cussing the protesters after ramming into them. Hopefully it wasn't another Charlottesville incident.
 

Blitzo

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There are rumors from witnesses, although not necessarily true, that the driver was speaking Mandarin and was cussing the protesters after ramming into them. Hopefully it wasn't another Charlottesville incident.

Considering we have no proof of whatever the driver's intent was or wasn't, but we do have proof that he was swarmed and beaten bloody and half to death, perhaps sympathy should be more appropriately directed to the victim of actual confirmed violence first.
 

SinoSoldier

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Considering we have no proof of whatever the driver's intent was or wasn't, but we do have proof that he was swarmed and beaten bloody and half to death, perhaps sympathy should be more appropriately directed to the victim of actual confirmed violence first.

Not saying that the driver should've been beaten up at all. But we do need a counterbalance against the similarly-baseless assumption that the driver plowed into those protesters purely by accident or out of fear.

I say that we should keep personal commentary to a minimum and let the police or multimedia do the investigating.
 

Blitzo

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Not saying that the driver should've been beaten up at all. But we do need a counterbalance against the similarly-baseless assumption that the driver plowed into those protesters purely by accident or out of fear.

I say that we should keep personal commentary to a minimum and let the police or multimedia do the investigating.

Of course you're not saying the driver should have been beaten up.

However instead of focusing on condemnation of the fact with visual and video that he was beaten up, debating over whether he might or might not have deliberately driven into the crowd (considering he was already trapped on all sides by a crowd and barely moving in the video clip) serves to deflect the conversation away from what is a blatant act of mob violence.



So, I will appropriately like to point out for the purposes of the thread, that regardless of whether the driver's maneuver was an accident or deliberate -- let's remember that the driver was beaten to a bloody pulp which we have clear video evidence for, and who is another victim on a growing list who's suffered due to mob violence from crowds dressed in black shirts that has now become increasingly common in the city.
 

solarz

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I don't know where you guys stand on this, but I would mark the HK protests as the beginning of a great US-China conflict.

It's clear to me that the HK riots are not about freedom and democracy, but about forcing the CCP to use heavy handed tactics to force international sanctions on China. The US and co. hopes that this will slow down Chinese economy and destabilize the Chinese leadership and China. America can then initiate military action in the SCS and even on to the mainland to Balkanzie China.

The HK unrest, as a strategic thrust aimed at destablizing China, is a complete failure. It is, in fact, exposing to Beijing a large amount of covert assets that the NED has planted in Hong KOng over the years. Strategically, Beijing stands to gain much from HK's self-destruction. Therefore, I do not believe this is a coordinated effort from the US. Instead, I believe this is instigated by special interest groups who saw an opportunity to fan anti-China sentiment.

While China as a whole is benefiting from the strategic blunder, HKers are the unfortunate victims of this international political game.
 

Blitzo

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An insightful interview with Steve Bannon on Hong Kong and its importance within the US-China economic nexus. He also gives his standpoint on why China has been reluctant to use heavy-handed tactics on HK protesters and why the city matters to the PRC more than mainlanders wish to believe.


NTD is literally an entity as part of the Falun Gong media network that includes the likes of Epoch Times.

Perhaps you were not aware, or perhaps you were aware but felt like Bannon's commentary still somehow made it worthwhile being posted here, however it may be useful in future to flag it as a FLG media product with the level of judgement that it deserves.
 

vincent

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Read up this database from the Washington Post to learn how the police in The Shining City on a Hill works:

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An example from Toronto:
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An 18 year old man (teenager according to the definition by the Western media on the shooting of the moron in HK) was holding a small knife on an empty streetcar. A cop got on the car and shot him six times. The court ruled the first three shot was justified but the last three (shot at his corpse on the floor) was overkill. The cop was convicted of guilty of attempted murder.

In North America, cops are free to kill if they feel their lives are threatened
 

Quickie

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Too bad but this is what happens when you think or don't think about what you're about to say? He has friends in Hong Kong and was worried about their safety? Were they violent protestors? The police aren't taking action against anyone else. Yes one those excuses they're making up to soften the damage. This is not a judgement of China. It's about their own supposed beliefs being put on the spotlight. They can break relations with China if they're taking a stand. Just don't complain about all the money you're losing. That's you not China when you put money before human rights. Or Morey could've just shut up...

It's beyond believable when he is said to worry about his friends in HK. It shows the extent they would spin the story to show the long arm of China is everywhere.

The team's tabloid is basically still singing to the tune of the general manager. Do their Chinese fans read this tabloid with the help of translation? If they do, their response won't be good.
 
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