Hong-Kong Protests

AssassinsMace

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Maybe thats all there was, after all the criteria were that the applicants had to have some form of qualification which implies some level of intelligence.

500 hundred maybe the magic number to claim they cared enough. Like in the US they brought in refugees for PR purposes but spread them out around the US so they can't be a block that can change elections.
 

Gatekeeper

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I almost get in trouble in threads with a certain person always ligthing flames. Best to just hit the ignore button on people that you think are out 'trolling'

Welcome back!

I used to have my difference with a former respective mod back in late 00. When we couldn't resolve our difference, I decided to quit. I never got banned or warned but I know the feeling of being stifled. However, we still need to respect Mod's judgement even if we don't agree with them sometime. It is a thankless job for being a mod especially for those that are trying hard to be impartial.

Hang in there friend. The ban came from nowhere and had questionable rationale. But shit does happen sometimes and it is big of you to just let it go.

Thanks for your support guys. No, luckily I don't hold grudges. So I'm all good and we can let it go. The only thing is it dies made me cagey when I post. Because one wrong post and is curtains.

They ought to be a system that escalate the type of punishment. And a system to address issues. As @Dolcevita said, the jail term was questionable. But hey ho. Onwards and upwards.
 

Gatekeeper

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Great rebuttal from our Victor Guo. Deng's interpreter during the U.S. reapproch to China and Thatcher's attempt in getting the upper hand in the negotiation of Hong Kong. A giant on the world stage, coming up against the convicted criminal and traitor that wasn't even born when victor was on the world stage.

Loved it when victor said "this young man (convicted criminal Nathan Law still acting as a condom for the British) would be locked up by the British if he did what he did in the U.K. instead of Hong Kong".

It is unbelievable the British still think they could throw their weights around in the world. Didn't they learn anything after Suez?

 

Gatekeeper

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This just sums up the human rights organisations are all western sponsored organs. Where's armnisty international? Where's the cries of police brutality when unarmed person can get shot and killed for no reasons. Yet when the rioters in Hong Kong was shot wielding an hammer or a metal tube. Or trying to snatch gun from police. It's a different story!

 

voyager1

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The national security day for HK was awesome. I especially enjoyed their salty tears, when the kids were posing with (obviously fake) military weapons (grenades, rifles, RPG lol!) and they had to observe the national anthem.

Especially the anthem and other national security awareness activities on schools triggered them way too hard:cool:
 

Mr T

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A very interesting article. I particularly liked the bit where he claimed the majority of HKers supported a change in the electoral system so that directly-elected legislators became a small minority and the vast majority would be appointed by the CCP directly or indirectly.
“Democracy is a process, it’s a means, not an end,” said Wong, who is turning 56 this year, was born in neighbouring Guangdong province and had lived in the United States for 12 years. He said he measures democracy by a government’s ability to provide its people with a satisfactory life.

“At the end of the day, the deliver[y] of democracy is what you deliver to the people: the satisfaction level, the prosperity, the harmony, the stability [of] people,” he added. “I think that counts above anything else.”
Step 1: Change the political system so that your opponents cannot win, even if they have majority support from the public.
Step 2: Change the definition of democracy so that it no longer matters that directly elected seats are a minority, provided the public are "satisfied".
Step 3: Intimidate people to not cast blank ballots or express their dissatisfaction in a fashion that could show the majority are unhappy.
Step 4: Create an atmosphere were only a pro-government minority feel confident enough to express their opinions.
Step 5: Pat yourself on the back for ensuring the public are "satisfied", ignoring the fact that the majority are staying quiet out of fear.

I guess Hong Kong is currently in stage 3. I wonder how long it will take to get to stage 5.
 

Xizor

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Welcome @Gatekeeper

Can you brief on how coronavirus and vaccines are being received by the various elements in HK. Sadly, covid19 has become political and even sadder is the fact that vaccines have become political issues.
 

Xizor

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A very interesting article. I particularly liked the bit where he claimed the majority of HKers supported a change in the electoral system so that directly-elected legislators became a small minority and the vast majority would be appointed by the CCP directly or indirectly.

Step 1: Change the political system so that your opponents cannot win, even if they have majority support from the public.
Step 2: Change the definition of democracy so that it no longer matters that directly elected seats are a minority, provided the public are "satisfied".
Step 3: Intimidate people to not cast blank ballots or express their dissatisfaction in a fashion that could show the majority are unhappy.
Step 4: Create an atmosphere were only a pro-government minority feel confident enough to express their opinions.
Step 5: Pat yourself on the back for ensuring the public are "satisfied", ignoring the fact that the majority are staying quiet out of fear.

I guess Hong Kong is currently in stage 3. I wonder how long it will take to get to stage 5.
It will get there soon enough. HK must not become a launchpad for foreign elements seeking to create chaos in China. There is national security laws in place in every country on the planet (irrespective of the governing systems). China's national security is paramount over the interests and conditions of a small region within the country. Democracy isn't a panacea regarding political systems.

The free rein of catholic/ evangelical brainwashing centers and indoctrination camps in HK (which promote the othering of mainlanders and discrimination) must be confronted with the same vigor that ideological cousins from Middle East are being targeted in Europe ( Austria imparts sustained pressure, France has started). Much oversight is needed since it is not a secret that certain white supremacist/ euro centrists seek to leverage religion and religious groups as a fifth column in China. Religions may be accommodated but never be used against the country and the systems.
 

voyager1

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A very interesting article. I particularly liked the bit where he claimed the majority of HKers supported a change in the electoral system so that directly-elected legislators became a small minority and the vast majority would be appointed by the CCP directly or indirectly.

Step 1: Change the political system so that your opponents cannot win, even if they have majority support from the public.
Step 2: Change the definition of democracy so that it no longer matters that directly elected seats are a minority, provided the public are "satisfied".
Step 3: Intimidate people to not cast blank ballots or express their dissatisfaction in a fashion that could show the majority are unhappy.
Step 4: Create an atmosphere were only a pro-government minority feel confident enough to express their opinions.
Step 5: Pat yourself on the back for ensuring the public are "satisfied", ignoring the fact that the majority are staying quiet out of fear.

I guess Hong Kong is currently in stage 3. I wonder how long it will take to get to stage 5.
Sorry mate that your wishes have not been fulfilled.

Facts, China doesn't care about HK system too much as long as it doesn't get inflitrated by foreign elements and it doesn't cause widespread unrest.

HK failed to do that, so thats why Beijing is cleaning up now with all these actions. If the current gov doesn't improve too much then I fully expect they will get the boot

Sorry no more CIA for you anymore
 
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