Mr T
Senior Member
Lie. Liberal Party is pro-Business not pro-CCP. Liberal Party has flip flop so many times that both the Pro-Beijing camp and Pro-Dem camp don't trust them.
The Liberal Party usually votes for CCP candidates during the Chief Executive elections and usually with the other pro-Beijing parties in the HK assembly. It is pro-CCP. Its members just have brains and don't always follow instructions from Beijing.
And Martin Lee thinks 2003 article 23 is a very good law and should have been passed. Are you are trying to say Martin Lee doesn't know better.
Article 23 is a principle, not a law. If it was a law the CCP wouldn't have had any reason to introduce the new security legislation.
A son of Kuomintang Lieutenant General
What does that have to do with anything? I can remember Chinese nationalists regularly calling the KMT their best friends (at least whenever Taiwan comes up) and stuff like "when China is unified the KMT can come to the mainland to be the Opposition". But now being the son of someone in the KMT puts you under suspicion? Right.
Appreciate the Hong Kong bill passed by the US Congress, which makes Hong Kong an independent political entity.
HK was supposed to be an independent politcal entity - at least in the context of autonomy for non-international issues.
The best starting point is to persuade the last governor, Patten, to use his near-authoritarian power to strengthen the democratic system In order to protect human rights, Patten, who possesses the means of British colonial law, must promote and establish these systems.
This sounds an awful lot like before the handover. If you'd bothered to read my post, you'll have noticed the bit where the Democratic Party negotiated in good faith with the CCP after 1997.
Szeto Wah..
Resigned as a legislator in 2004. He didn't make the Democratic Party vote for the reform package, even if he supported it.
Western countries have directly interfered with HK affair including financial and intelligent support which is defined as "Color Revolution." Many of radical HK teenagers were sent to camps in Taiwan for training of tactics and strategies and organization of protests including some weapon training. Don't try to lie your way out of this.
Nice strawman. I didn't claim no foreign countries had taken an interest in Hong Kong. The issue is the disparity in power between the CCP and the common people in HK.
The CCP has always had all the legal and security power in Hong Kong, either directly or indirectly. They and their cronies in the city have banned non-violent protests against the Chinese anthem, banned localist parties and politicians, harrassed other pan-democratic figures, kidnapped booksellers, banned protests in the city, tried indoctrinating children with pro-CCP propaganda and protected the HK police over complaints of violence. Now they've just decided to make it illegal to say mean things about the CCP and its allies in HK.
The little support a number of protesters have received is a drop in the ocean in comparison.
Also, before you try to claim that most HK people support the CCP, I draw your attention to the fact that the pro-Beijing parties have never held a majority of seats in the the HK assembly from the geographic constituences. Not once.
Sometimes I think that's the real reason the CCP won't allow proper electoral reform in Hong Kong, because it's mad a majority of HKers refuse to vote for its proxies.