Too soft and weak-handed. Arrest and hand them over to Mainland authorities for carrying out subversive activities against China.
Hong-Kong Protests
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Too soft and weak-handed. Arrest and hand them over to Mainland authorities for carrying out subversive activities against China.
One idea I had wrt Hong Kong education:
It's very clear that a lot of the Hong Kong rioting is driven by Hong Kong's pro-Western, anti-Chinese education system. Specifically many teachers are anti-Chinese, more so than the typical Hong Konger (e.g. a Hong Kong businessman might be pro-Chinese, a Hong Kong teacher anti-Chinese).
The ideal solution would be to implement patriotic education. However, this was already attempted in 2012 and failed. With the continuing protests, the government will not be able to implement patriotic education for the foreseeable future.
So what is there to do? One idea I've thought about is to systemically fire teachers that do anti-Chinese things. We've had a trickle of Hong Kong teachers being disciplined/fired for controversial anti-Chinese statements.
My idea would be to make this a quiet systemic thing, implemented by quiet executive management. If any student or upset parent anonymously reports a teacher being anti-Chinese - Hong Kong forces the school to fire that teacher and puts them on a black list. They are free to work elsewhere, just not in education. Start with public schools first (this will probably take several years to be completed sufficiently).
This way we would ideally be able to quietly purify the education system (or force them to be neutral) - similar to what has happened to the police force. Ideally this wouldn't spark great controversy, enormous protests, or negative Western media coverage? (Not 100% confident about this; this is a weak point in the plan.)
Please tell me if you think this is feasible or if I'm crazy. I am not an expert on Hong Kong, so would appreciate any critiques.
It's very clear that a lot of the Hong Kong rioting is driven by Hong Kong's pro-Western, anti-Chinese education system. Specifically many teachers are anti-Chinese, more so than the typical Hong Konger (e.g. a Hong Kong businessman might be pro-Chinese, a Hong Kong teacher anti-Chinese).
The ideal solution would be to implement patriotic education. However, this was already attempted in 2012 and failed. With the continuing protests, the government will not be able to implement patriotic education for the foreseeable future.
So what is there to do? One idea I've thought about is to systemically fire teachers that do anti-Chinese things. We've had a trickle of Hong Kong teachers being disciplined/fired for controversial anti-Chinese statements.
My idea would be to make this a quiet systemic thing, implemented by quiet executive management. If any student or upset parent anonymously reports a teacher being anti-Chinese - Hong Kong forces the school to fire that teacher and puts them on a black list. They are free to work elsewhere, just not in education. Start with public schools first (this will probably take several years to be completed sufficiently).
This way we would ideally be able to quietly purify the education system (or force them to be neutral) - similar to what has happened to the police force. Ideally this wouldn't spark great controversy, enormous protests, or negative Western media coverage? (Not 100% confident about this; this is a weak point in the plan.)
Please tell me if you think this is feasible or if I'm crazy. I am not an expert on Hong Kong, so would appreciate any critiques.
Actually a simple first step solution is to have a public servant exam for applicant to work in any branch of government service. All public servant must meet a minimum criteria of ethical and general educational standard including proper history awareness.
Corrupted minds should not be allowed in government services.
Is Hong Kong a part of China?
Are HK passport holder British National?
Is HK democratic?
Corrupted minds should not be allowed in government services.
Is Hong Kong a part of China?
Are HK passport holder British National?
Is HK democratic?
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Couldn't agree more. BUT her hands are tied. She, and China have to look at the big picture. She has to play by the rule book. Therefore these thugs can't be sent back to China (it's amazing, if there were any treasonous crime happening in any USA territory. You bet your ads the thugs can be transferred anywhere within their sovereign territory, where as China can't do the same).
Too heavy handed in this matter might spook Taiwan, which is and should be China's ultimate focus!
Traitor Jimmy Lai's trial starts tomorrow!
plawolf
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What a farce and absolute inversion of black and white, and as usual, the BBC simply gives the anti-China crowd free airtime without any of their much vaunted ‘balance’ to challenge the absolutely ridiculous statements being made.
And also, note the subtle disinformation insertion, example being the claim, made as a statement of fact, that the street protests died because of the Pandemic, whereas anyone who followed the story will know that it was dead as soon as the trade deal was reached and China started cracking down on the money behind the protes long before COVID19 hit.
I mean, how could the BBC not challenge this blatant BS? Unless it thinks that in a ‘real’ democracy, if you don’t have the numbers to pass/block a bill, you should naturally try to physically assault the opposing side? Having security guards stopping you from attacking others is a ‘trampling’ of your rights and ‘Beijing tightening its grip’? And of course, if you don’t like the way the democratic process has passed bills, in ‘real’ democracies, it is absolutely ok to riot in the streets?
And also, note the subtle disinformation insertion, example being the claim, made as a statement of fact, that the street protests died because of the Pandemic, whereas anyone who followed the story will know that it was dead as soon as the trade deal was reached and China started cracking down on the money behind the protes long before COVID19 hit.
I mean, how could the BBC not challenge this blatant BS? Unless it thinks that in a ‘real’ democracy, if you don’t have the numbers to pass/block a bill, you should naturally try to physically assault the opposing side? Having security guards stopping you from attacking others is a ‘trampling’ of your rights and ‘Beijing tightening its grip’? And of course, if you don’t like the way the democratic process has passed bills, in ‘real’ democracies, it is absolutely ok to riot in the streets?
It's great deception at work. I saw all this on social media. And apart from the "pro-democratic AKA thugs" everyone think disgusting behaviour. Think about it, if this was happening in the UK house of Parliament or Washington Senate. Just think what the headline will be. It will be a complete reversal.
These thugs are trying to stop democracy at work. Simply because they don't have the numbers. Guess what, that is democracy IN work!
It is like the two thugs deliberately made the mess of their oath taking ceremony. But still take their generous salary, and what's more spent it on holidays etc. Now refusing to pay back. All these just bogged down the city's time and money. For what? Oh yet because they lack DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM! Really?
More lack of freedom and democracy at work. Look at these poor children. If this was happening round your neighbourhoods, they will be men with white coats round to protect this poor kids in double quick time!
Remember this "cheeky" girl taking photos with the police whilst holding hand slogan "five demands not one less"! Well, let's see she demand this in prison! Lol
And finally this propaganda photo shot of the police. Guess which one is photoshoped!
Here's what I was talking about earlier. That videos are floating around of the real situation which upset the majority of Hong Kong populace. But somehow, the BBC made it looks like the thugs were ejected from the assembly for no good reason at all.
Here's the video of the thugs in intimidating mood in a civilised democratic setting captured by Junius Ho. The very same Junius Ho who had his honorary doctorates degree revoke by Anglia Ruskin university for his "conduct in the Hong Kong riots"! So much for opinons and freedom of speech!
Here's the video of the thugs in intimidating mood in a civilised democratic setting captured by Junius Ho. The very same Junius Ho who had his honorary doctorates degree revoke by Anglia Ruskin university for his "conduct in the Hong Kong riots"! So much for opinons and freedom of speech!
Love this from one of the council meetings. For those who can't read Chinese and understand Cantonese.
Lady: Chinese had suffered lots of hardship.
But Chinese people hate the most is TRAITORS!
Chairman: I've to warn you for calling him a Traitor!
Lady: I didn't say he was traitor. I just say and she repeated: Chinese hate TRAITORS the most!
Bravo! There are still lots of Chinese in Hong Kong fighting the tide of anti-chinese sentiments. We mustn't forget that, and they can't be abandon! It'll be an uphill struggle after all these years of false education and foreign forces behind the thugs!
Lady: Chinese had suffered lots of hardship.
But Chinese people hate the most is TRAITORS!
Chairman: I've to warn you for calling him a Traitor!
Lady: I didn't say he was traitor. I just say and she repeated: Chinese hate TRAITORS the most!
Bravo! There are still lots of Chinese in Hong Kong fighting the tide of anti-chinese sentiments. We mustn't forget that, and they can't be abandon! It'll be an uphill struggle after all these years of false education and foreign forces behind the thugs!