What is everyone's thoughts about the passing of that bill? Any special implications long term?
Hong-Kong Protests
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What is everyone's thoughts about the passing of that bill? Any special implications long term?
That goes without saying. Carrie Lam's appeasement strategy is also to be blamed. If she has finished what CY Leung started, then the anti-establishment would not have that much time to regroup and rehabilitated after the Monk Kok riot in 2016. Hong Kong needs GST or VAT to diversify the reliance on land sales as main source of tax revenue. If Hong Kong can resolve housing affordability issue, then inequality would come down a lot. Special interests in HK revolved around the property prices. Property is used as a store of wealth in HK. Rent increases in retail have forced many small businesses to shut down. Rent increases in residential also forced many HK people to live in a cage like of space. But do the HK government and the pro-establishment parties have the will to face down the business tycoons and the anti-establishment at the same time.
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I hope it would force many Hong Kong government officers at the leadership level/pro-establishment leaders to resign. Many of them have properties and children in US, UK, Canada, and Australia. Carrie Lam's husband and kids are all UK citizens.
I believe it is an empty threat. It has zero effect on China. Don't think China is concerned about HK special status anymore as HK proved to be unreliable and unstable. The HK government basically has done more harm than good. The HKPF is on the road of no return. They know the consequences if the anti-establishment won. Beside, it is absurd to sanction HK or HK government or police.
In addition, just look at Bolivia, the police and the military are what really count.
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solarz
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I expect China to suspend trade negotiations in retaliation.
How about pass a law on the welfare of Asians in the US
Jura The idiot
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recently a troll in this thread had claimed I were an Indian according to that troll, that claim was deleted by a Mod, so I'll report you for trolling right now
The US law is just a paper of words for now. It doesn't deserve more than condemnation by words. Once any materialistic action is taken, there should be materialistic retaliation. Right now, condemnation and a promise of retaliation is enough. The US is making out bargain chips out of thin air, don't let them feel that they have made one.
What China (including SAR government) should do is to continue doing what they are doing in Hong Kong, ignoring what the US has put in their paper. The US will have two choices, do what it has said accordingly, or find a ladder and climb down from the high horse. And China will not provide that ladder. It is like Obama drawing the red line in sand in Syria, and Trump finding excuses to pull out while being called of betraying allies.
Put it simply, call the bluff.
What China (including SAR government) should do is to continue doing what they are doing in Hong Kong, ignoring what the US has put in their paper. The US will have two choices, do what it has said accordingly, or find a ladder and climb down from the high horse. And China will not provide that ladder. It is like Obama drawing the red line in sand in Syria, and Trump finding excuses to pull out while being called of betraying allies.
Put it simply, call the bluff.
Jura The idiot
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I've now reread the series
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and I think we differ in what the sentence, quote,
“[But] if a candidate that is not acceptable to Beijing has emerged, Beijing would not appoint them.”
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means: I've interpreted it as that article is saying Beijing might turn down an elected
have the last word if you want (you =
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Jura The idiot
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I think the most important part of
Hong Kong society needs to jointly resist US provocation
is
"China's key countermeasure against the law is to further clarify the fundamental rules of the "one country, two systems" principle, completely dispel Hong Kong radical opposition's pipe dream to realize "absolute universal suffrage," correct their misunderstanding of the principle, and firmly repulse US assessments of the high degree of autonomy in Hong Kong."
anyway follow the link
if interested
EDIT plus something imminent:
China summons U.S. ambassador to lodge representations, protest against U.S. signing of HK-related act into law
Xinhua| 2019-11-28 16:06:08
Hong Kong society needs to jointly resist US provocation
is
"China's key countermeasure against the law is to further clarify the fundamental rules of the "one country, two systems" principle, completely dispel Hong Kong radical opposition's pipe dream to realize "absolute universal suffrage," correct their misunderstanding of the principle, and firmly repulse US assessments of the high degree of autonomy in Hong Kong."
anyway follow the link
if interested
EDIT plus something imminent:
China summons U.S. ambassador to lodge representations, protest against U.S. signing of HK-related act into law
Xinhua| 2019-11-28 16:06:08
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This is great. This dude going around Hong Kong playing the national athem loudly in his own portable master blaster! I've seen video of him in mall, flyovers etc.
I thought he's little over the too, but atleast he's not hurting anyone or affecting anyone toi greatly. Just annoyance!
Anyway the reason I post this particular video is not what he's doing, but the reaction of the guard! The guard actually doing his job to stop anyone making a nuisance of themself on the metro!
Kudos for that, but that begs the question, where were you guys when the thugs were beaten people up, stopping train from running by standing between the doors?? Yet when a patriot plays the national athem loudly, you take action!
I thought he's little over the too, but atleast he's not hurting anyone or affecting anyone toi greatly. Just annoyance!
Anyway the reason I post this particular video is not what he's doing, but the reaction of the guard! The guard actually doing his job to stop anyone making a nuisance of themself on the metro!
Kudos for that, but that begs the question, where were you guys when the thugs were beaten people up, stopping train from running by standing between the doors?? Yet when a patriot plays the national athem loudly, you take action!