Hong-Kong Protests

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Another fine example of freedom at work! Passengers are forced and manhandled to stop them going through the ticket maching!

Complete lawlessness going on, and yet we are still led to believe is peaceful.

As you can see, not all citizen agrees with their actions, but just like my aunty described to me, those who protest are shouted down and, this time manhandled, it could be worse!
 

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China confirms detention of Hong Kong-based UK consulate staffer

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This is the guy, the MSM made the big fuss about, in some media, they even accused China of detaining him, and why this is a great example to oppos the bill!

Then to all their embarrassment, it turned out he was caught in a whorehouse. Lol.

And he requested that the authority not to inform his family because to save his blushes! Lol

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manqiangrexue

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China versus the entire liberal world (including Japan and India). Do you really think China has a chance of winning?
What are you talking about? Nobody is willing to go to war with China over this, and China has the nukes to keep MAD in place. Stop thinking that as long as a country has liberal media to say bad things about China, that country wants to fight China.

That's only because the U.S. and NATO chose not to annihilate China with nukes, but sought cooperation against a more belligerent USSR. Keep in mind that DF-5 did not become operational until mid. 1980's.
What's your point? This isn't 1951. Now we have DF-5, 31, 31A, 31B, 41, ZF soon too.

I'm afraid it is not that simple. These aren't just spoil kids. These are kids with their own sets of ideologies and seem willing to die for them. If we want to prevent bloodshed, I think giving HK genuine elections (no CCP vetting) is the only solution in the short-term.
Hahahahahaha NO. Let them loot trash their own city and turn themselves into hobos. The longer they do it, the more hate they garner form the local Hong Kong population and well as from the rest of China. Let's see how long they can keep ruining their own lives. China's economy is insulated from this. Never give rioters anything that they want; it encourages future bad behavior. It is like giving terrorists money to not be a terrorist for a day.

And China still hasn't deployed a tactic that I would put before a military intervention, which is to round up some million patriotic able-bodied Chinese citizens, get them all in red t-shirts to counter the black t-shirts, arm them with steel pipes and pour them across the border to absolutely beat these rioters to high hell, private citizen vs. private citizen. I'd buy a plane ticket to volunteer.

When the contract expires in 2047, why not re-negotiate then (assuming Mainland would have far greater leverages internationally by then)? However, if the PLA or PAP were to crack down on the protestors right now, it would be Beijing's violation of the Sino-British Joint Declaration, which is a binding international treaty.
Because governments don't negotiate with punk rioting kids. "Binding treaties" are until one side pulls out, as Trump shows us. And to be frank, the British have no illusions that they can force China to stay in if China wants out anyway.

Now people could blame HK protesters being violent and racist, but if PLA/PAP moves in, it would ALL be Beijing's fault.
Build your country based on yourself if you want it be strong. Countries built on the opinions of the international communities are weak and spineless. This is China's affair. If push comes to shove, China will do what it needs within its borders, and if anyone thinks it's Beijing's "fault" they can pound sand. If they want to make a problem of it, we can go to war. This is a China that nobody can bully.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Another fine example of freedom at work! Passengers are forced and manhandled to stop them going through the ticket maching!

Complete lawlessness going on, and yet we are still led to believe is peaceful.

As you can see, not all citizen agrees with their actions, but just like my aunty described to me, those who protest are shouted down and, this time manhandled, it could be worse!
This is really awesome. They are totally getting people to hate them. Blocking subway turn-slides to cause pedestrians commuting inconveniences and then yelling "Fuck you" at people who angrily push through is totally the very last thing you want to do to gain support. They are making themselves as pathetic and annoying as possible. I love it.
 

Hendrik_2000

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That's only because the U.S. and NATO chose not to annihilate China with nukes, but sought cooperation against a more belligerent USSR. Keep in mind that DF-5 did not become operational until mid. 1980's.

US can't nuke China at that time because it will result in WWIII as Soviet will invariable enter the fray So you are talking nonsense here
Harry Truman know the limit of US power and he fired McArthur
 

manqiangrexue

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Not necessarily, especially between 1960 and 1972.
We are talking about Korean war 1950-1953 here don't move the goal post!
Yeah, but could we not talk about the Korean War or 1960-1972 though?

This is 2019, when China has one of the most robust nuclear arsenals in the world with an upcoming DF-ZF that would be in a league by itself. Nobody is going to war with China over punk rioting kids in Hong Kong.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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This is 2019, when China has one of the most robust nuclear arsenals in the world
Big boys on the block

with an upcoming DF-ZF that would be in a league by itself
We've got the best missiles in the world, folks. Missiles like you wouldn't believe, we have missiles... nobody has these missiles. People are saying they can come from any direction, and you can't shoot them down... that's what they're saying, you can't, nobody can shoot them down. Nobody knows where they're coming from. Big, beautiful missiles; tremendous missiles. And we're gonna win with these missiles, believe me, we're gonna win like we've never won before.

Nobody is going to war with China over punk rioting kids in Hong Kong.
"Can they be ignorant that a couple of English frigates would be an overmatch for the whole naval force of their empire, that in half a summer they could totally destroy the navigation of their coasts and reduce the inhabitants of the maritime provinces, who subsist chiefly on fish, to absolute famine?" - George Macartney, English "ambassador" to China.

They really think it's 1792 and they could pull it off again. I'd love to see them try it today
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Hendrik_2000

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Yeah, but could we not talk about the Korean War or 1960-1972 though?

This is 2019, when China has one of the most robust nuclear arsenals in the world with an upcoming DF-ZF that would be in a league by itself. Nobody is going to war with China over punk rioting kids in Hong Kong.

I am responding to his absurd post here
China versus the entire liberal world (including Japan and India). Do you really think China has a chance of winning?

That is the why I bring up Korean war to show that China has resolve to confront the whole world if need be when her vital interest is at stake.
Hongkong is nowhere as important as it used to be and they way they behave only confirm the suspicion that democrazy invariably led to chaos and instability benefiting no one It will silent the pro western democrazy faction in PRC
It is bad advertisement for democrazy
 
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