Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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siegecrossbow

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Depends on how you label factions, if you mean a political entity or alliance that people identify themselves with, then no they aren't. (Such factionalism in CPC's eyes is just another 朋党乱政)If you mean a group of officials who were personally acquainted due to their previous common work experience or similar ancestry, then yes. (But politically they mean almost nothing and guaranteed nothing, thus why I suggest to basically ignore them.)

Lol you are being naive. There is a saying in China: 有人的地方就是江湖。Dwell on that for a moment.

BTW we have gone way off topic here.
 

zxy_bc

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If possible, could you provide a link to the video?



Are you saying that there are no political factions in CCP politics anymore? Youth league faction, Xi's Zhejiang faction, Jiang faction, all of those are no longer relevant.
(Calling someone who was just released 公子 is also a big no no, treating him like someone who contributed charity works when in fact he was just another corrupted asshole)
 

Overbom

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There is a thread about discussion of politics for China
 

zxy_bc

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Don’t think anybody mentioned before, but Biden and Xu have a pretty close personal relationship with each other. (Biden being the vice-president of Obama and Xu as the vice-chairman of PRC at the same period, they communicated frequently. And Biden passed on Bo Xi Lai’s political conspiracy evidence to Xi during the time when Bo trying to notified the US on his coup attempt)
 

texx1

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(Calling someone who was just released 公子 is also a big no no, treating him like someone who contributed charity works when in fact he was just another corrupted asshole)
Look at words on the red background board in the video. (不忘初心, 回归本色) Does it sound similar to something?
 

zxy_bc

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Look at words on the red background board in the video. (不忘初心, 回归本色) Does it sound similar to something?
Yeah I see what you mean. But tbf, that’s not the reason why those news anchors got into trouble. (That’s the reason he got into trouble)
 

Franklin

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What really irks the Americans and the West is that they are losing ground to a opponent that they view as inferior to them in every way.

They view China's political system as being regressive and archaic. They view China's academia with suspicion as they don't have "freedom of thought". And until recently they see the Chinese economy as filled with old smoke stack industries that belongs in the last century. They view China's human rights record as a anathema to everything they believe in and stand for. And with Xi Jinping centralizing power in recent years have simply further strengthen their negative views of China and confirm a lot of their biases and stereotype's of the CCP.

So the West sees themselves as both the intellectual and moral superiors to China.

If you have lost to a opponent that you acknowledge as your superior then you will accept that you were beaten by someone better than you and you will work harder to do better next time.

But if you are losing to someone you view as beneath you. Then you will start to look for other answers to your los. You will be convinced that the other guy cheated and played dirty because how else would they have been able to beat you.

Hints the endless accusations from the US and the West about China cheating, lying and stealing from them. They throw doubts about Chinese economic data and deride China's technological progress as either have been copied or been stolen from them. Because they believe that China can't progress or innovate on her own. They make fun of Chinese quality and workmenship. They accuse China of currency manipulation and using slave labor.

Because there must be a explanation why they are constantly losing to China on trade or the fact that China is muscling in on their marketshare for high tech products.

In this scenario there is very little to no introspection as to what went wrong for them. Instead its all the other guys fault.

That also explains why they are so desperate to see China fail as every misfortune that China has to deal with over the years is being seen as the end or the beginning of the end for China's ascendency.

And therefor going forward as the US and the West continues to struggle domestically and continues to lose influence internationally you will see that their rhetoric and actions towards China will become ever more shrilled and unhinged.

Very dangerous times ahead!
 

JayFalsum

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Don’t think anybody mentioned before, but Biden and Xu have a pretty close personal relationship with each other. (Biden being the vice-president of Obama and Xu as the vice-chairman of PRC at the same period, they communicated frequently. And Biden passed on Bo Xi Lai’s political conspiracy evidence to Xi during the time when Bo trying to notified the US on his coup attempt)
I am gonna call that bullshit unless you can provide proof.
 
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