Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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weig2000

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First of all, if you read the article, the US and EU have a long list of trade disputes and grievances to resolve themselves. It warms their hearts and improves the atmosphere just to talk about dealing with common threats, more specifically the state subsidies aka China. One particular common threat is China's ambition in civil aircraft manufacturing, with COMAC threatening both Boeing and Airbus in the intermediate term. It appears to be an area the US and EU can agree on. The problem is, Boeing and Airbus compete in the large Chinese aviation market, and COMAC does not pin its success on accessing to the US or EU markets, not initially anyway.

Second, WTO is a consensus-driven agreement. There is China in it and there are hundreds of other countries in it too. It's not IMF or World Bank where the US or EU wield veto power. You can negotiate and bargain the hell out of it there for many years. Meanwhile, China will continue to do what it does best, and that is growth.

The bottom line is, trade is a two-way street, particularly for big trading powers. You can't just dictate your rules on to other big players. The US going back to WTO is to take a step back and appeal to EU. The US had tried unilateral approach with Trump, it didn't work out well obviously. Before that, the US tried to work with "like-minded" friends and partners to rewrite the trading rules for the 21st century (otherwise known as containing China); supposedly it would be easier than going through WTO. That was embodied in TPP and TTIP. How did they fare?
 
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If you can't beat em (China) on A.I. data collection, join em.

"Developing artificial intelligence depends on accessing vast stores of data to fuel machine learning. There is a growing consensus in Washington and business that China, Russia, and other countries
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in the field of artificial intelligence in part because of
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Why is that whenever an American corporation work hand-in-glove with their government somehow that's legitimate and paramount to helping the U.S. compete a.k.a. bludgeon the competition but any Chinese companies working to assist it's own government that's interpreted and seen in malicious ways and face sanctions lol...

"One member of the task force is Andrew Moore, director of cloud AI for
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Inc.’s Google."


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If you can't beat em (China) on A.I. data collection, join em.

"Developing artificial intelligence depends on accessing vast stores of data to fuel machine learning. There is a growing consensus in Washington and business that China, Russia, and other countries
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in the field of artificial intelligence in part because of
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Why is that whenever an American corporation work hand-in-glove with their government somehow that's legitimate and paramount to helping the U.S. compete a.k.a. bludgeon the competition but any Chinese companies working to assist it's own government that's interpreted and seen in malicious ways and face sanctions lol...

"One member of the task force is Andrew Moore, director of cloud AI for
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Inc.’s Google."


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Couple years ago one of Google Deepmind execs was hyping up how data wont be needed to train AI in the future lol....


Eric Schmidt who commission that 700 page report to US gov on how to beat China in AI was at the AlphaGo events personally and helped come up with the naming, like ALPHAGo this and MASTER that... Very racists undertones to use AI to "conquer" a 5000 year Chinese game and to claim quantum "supremacy" over the world....

Good thing China CPC had foresight to kick Google (NSA) of out China a decade ago....
 

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Couple years ago one of Google Deepmind execs was hyping up how data wont be needed to train AI in the future lol....


Eric Schmidt who commission that 700 page report to US gov on how to beat China in AI was at the AlphaGo events personally and helped come up with the naming, like ALPHAGo this and MASTER that... Very racists undertones to use AI to "conquer" a 5000 year Chinese game and to claim quantum "supremacy" over the world....

Good thing China CPC had foresight to kick Google (NSA) of out China a decade ago....
DeepMind (owned by Google) is incredible

Their protein-folding achievement will certainly grab a Nobel for them in the future
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And their new advancement is now called
MuZero
I would say it is revolutionary
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AFAIK China has nothing close to it
 

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