Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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daifo

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No way Australia is getting off this lightly even after the Alaska meeting.

As I said in a previous post, China will send a signal to the word on how commited it is to its punishments.

Expect iron mines set up in Africa and other regions, and expect divestment of chinese imports from Australia to other countries. China should be commited to go until the very end and unless Australia "capitulates" (take a backseat to the Quad, allow foreign investments etc) China should close off any chinese money going to Australia coffers funding their submarines and offensive weaponry programmes.

China has long shown the world of its economic carrots, now its time for economic sticks. I am expecting major economic offensive moves to continue against Australia.

Good first step from Australia on the genocide vote though

The flip side is to encourage immigration since Austrailia is a small country by population and they can dilute the racist / racist votes over time.
 

j17wang

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The flip side is to encourage immigration since Austrailia is a small country by population and they can dilute the racist / racist votes over time.

No, the australians will just persecute the shit out of you or eventually shoot you like american cops (they seem to want to emulate America anyways). You think immigration has made americans less hostile to afro-americans and mexicans?
 

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Take a look at the top reply:

"It's obvious now that China's bullying is not to send a message of power to people in mainland China but to send a message of power to the millions of Chinese mainlanders living in other countries

They are using them as pawns to extend the limits of their bullying

We should consider cutting all ties with china....including closing embassies, closing chinatown's and massage parlours and export companies and chinese medicine practitioners. ..all will become fronts for the CCP"

Thats why I am supportive of afgan security forces striking back against Australian war crimes. Hopefully on the Australian homeland too.
 

daifo

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No, the australians will just persecute the shit out of you or eventually shoot you like american cops (they seem to want to emulate America anyways). You think immigration has made americans less hostile to afro-americans and mexicans?

Victory is not overnight. The demographics of the US is changing, hence that is why trump became popular. Both Democrats and Republicans uses democraphic maps to gerrymander elections to their favor.
 

j17wang

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Victory is not overnight. The demographics of the US is changing, hence that is why trump became popular. Both Democrats and Republicans uses democraphic maps to gerrymander elections to their favor.

You are correct that this is a demographic issue. The fundamental hostility towards china wont be solved until the demographic problem of the colonial states are solved and the right demographics are restored. This will take generations, and will require as comprehensive and brutal methods that were used to create the demographic problems in the beginning. That is why China does need at least a few other civilizations (muslim/slavic/latin american) on its side for the long fight.
 

Petrolicious88

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Detaining a Chinese diplomat wouldn't achieve any objective. Therefore, I serious question why people think it is a plausible scenario in the near future. It is more likely Americans would target Chinese scientists and elites for extralegal arrest and jail.
Detaining a senior Chinese diplomat? I can’t believe we are evening s
 

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As far as I can tell, Biden has aspirations for unity of allies to encircle China, but will US Asian and European allies volunteer to be frontline guinea pigs to be slaughtered to maintain US hegemony? I highly doubt it. China as a emerging second superpower offers opportunities and challenges, but on the balance, it's better for middle-powers to be neutral and not pick sides. Time therefore is on China's side, and US is agitating for conflict while it still has some strengths/advantages, but it's too little, too late at this point. China is too big and powerful to be contained by US and any assortment of alliance structure.
 

j17wang

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As far as I can tell, Biden has aspirations for unity of allies to encircle China, but will US Asian and European allies volunteer to be frontline guinea pigs to be slaughtered to maintain US hegemony? I highly doubt it. China as a emerging second superpower offers opportunities and challenges, but on the balance, it's better for middle-powers to be neutral and not pick sides. Time therefore is on China's side, and US is agitating for conflict while it still has some strengths/advantages, but it's too little, too late at this point. China is too big and powerful to be contained by US and any assortment of alliance structure.
Some american nazi just tried to exterminate chinese-americans in north america and the US has the balls to demand anything? China needs to make clear there will be no talks until the US takes immediate and concrete action to stop hate crimes in the US NOW. China must not back down, our people, our civlization, or family, and our children depend on this. There is no fucking negotiation or dialogue, we have ONE demand and not one less!

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hullopilllw

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As far as I can tell, Biden has aspirations for unity of allies to encircle China, but will US Asian and European allies volunteer to be frontline guinea pigs to be slaughtered to maintain US hegemony? I highly doubt it. China as a emerging second superpower offers opportunities and challenges, but on the balance, it's better for middle-powers to be neutral and not pick sides. Time therefore is on China's side, and US is agitating for conflict while it still has some strengths/advantages, but it's too little, too late at this point. China is too big and powerful to be contained by US and any assortment of alliance structure.
Exact sentiment from me. No matter how I try to read the Quad, the core concept seems to be about having allies paying, which otherwise should be US' fair share of the pie, to shore up US hegemony. There isn't any pragmatism from an economic sense for her allies. What if the containment fail and China ends up surpassing the US without much damage ? Will they be able to face consequence of being contained after that ?

I understand that the choice for US is either life or death(with regard to her hegemon status), but for others ? What more with the call for arm being "shared values" and maintaining "rule based world order" ?
 
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