Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

Much of the recent fake news on China can be traced back to FLG. This organization is a real threat to China and should be treated as such. It’s found footholds in Taiwan, Hk, Canada, and increasingly in the Us and Europe. You can see a corresponding level of disinformation coming out of those regions.

PeoplesPoster said:

Much of the recent fake news on China can be traced back to FLG. This organization is a real threat to China and should be treated as such. It’s found footholds in Taiwan, Hk, Canada, and increasingly in the Us and Europe. You can see a corresponding level of disinformation coming out of those regions.

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They better be careful because if there misinformation like everything else is going to backfire so much that eventually they will declared to be liabilities. I bet that the FLG misinformation about the corona has influenced Europe and the USA and even Canada to let there guard down and then look at where they are now, in a situation where they have to rush out there vaccines for a hope to control the pandemic which is not likely to change a thing

horse said:

So I do not know what an anti-China alliance will be all about, and I do not expect one to appear, because there is no purpose to it.

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An alliance that will allow US to shoot at China putting guns in shoulder of alliance, without having to face straight shoot out.

Second version of WW2 strategy when Europe went all in facing existential threat from USSR,giving US to do whatever it wants to do. US is seeking same from this "alliance".

bajingan said:

Even nz is increasingly distanced itself from five eyes anglos albeit slowly
Just recently nz trade minister openly critizises australia approach to China

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Good, once australia suffers enough and Scott Morrison is gone, australia may follow NZ route to slowly step aside and leave the USA and UK to do all the heavy lifting without putting themselves in the spot light again. China’s goal all along maybe to slowly bring down the 5eyes using calculated moves that are hard to detect until it’s too late. Given that australia is put into the eye of the UN now with there crimes and such being exposed, I doubt australia would be spoiling for a real fight anytime soon given that no other nation is willing to help australia right now. Heck, painting a bulls eye for future target of middle eastern countries seeking reparations for the war crimes done in The Middle East on the behalf of the USA is going to harm Australian reputation abroad for a long time. Hence australia will be in extreme trouble unless they stop acting of the USA attack dog, especially when the USA has no real intention of helping australia at all.

Nobonita Barua said:

An alliance that will allow US to shoot at China putting guns in shoulder of alliance, without having to face straight shoot out.

Second version of WW2 strategy when Europe went all in facing existential threat from USSR,giving US to do whatever it wants to do. US is seeking same from this "alliance".

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Hopefully no one will be stupid enough to willingly become us cannon fodders
Except for india and australia

KampfAlwin said:

Wait, why is China’s 2020 nominal gdp 14 trillion? I thought China reported it to be 100 trillion yuan which is 15.4 trillion usd. Although IMF claims its 14.9 trillion...

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Because it uses the average exchange rate of the year (2020), not just the current exchange rate

Nobonita Barua said:

An alliance that will allow US to shoot at China putting guns in shoulder of alliance, without having to face straight shoot out.

Second version of WW2 strategy when Europe went all in facing existential threat from USSR,giving US to do whatever it wants to do. US is seeking same from this "alliance".

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What alliances will form in Asia, I think the groupings will be anti-US and not anti-China.

The United States offers war, like you are saying.

China offers economic opportunity. Since the Chinese economy will double in 15 years, anyone trading will it should see their trading volume double too in 15 years.

If China goes to war with these countries, then they get none of that opportunity.

Look at the QUAD. The QUAD is anti-ASEAN.

That is why ASEAN signed the RCEP with China with eagerness.

ASEAN has no intention to be the second fiddle and bit player in their very own neighbourhood under the American thumb.

The Five Eyes as an entity look more fragile than they are, and could potentially splinter, especially given the racist and white supremacist nature of white anglo societies:

Biden has to choose dialogue and peace with China; pursuing trump's cold war with China will catalyse the demise of the anglos.

Excellent video telling the root cause of US-China tension which wrought with historical baggage, suspicion, misallocation of gain from globalization, malaise in US, Lie and innuendo etc From CNA a Singapore news agency it is a balance view from both side. good job Mediacorp.

I don't think the relation is going to change under Biden administration too complex and problematic as long as US doesn't get the grip on how to protect job while benefiting from globalization

US China relations are at its worst in modern history, how did the two countries get to this point? Understand the historical forces driving the conflict - from China’s Century of Shame to the slow decay of deindustrialisation in the US. Further adding to tensions is China’s perspective that US meddled in Hong Kong’s internal politics, and the American perspective that China is in part to blame for the coronavirus pandemic. After 4 years of escalating conflict under a Trump administration, what will Biden’s approach to China be?

Given China's economic size, it's virtually impossible for a formal anti-China alliance to form, even among the Western nations or Five Eyes.

Not over Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, SCS, or even Taiwan. Their hyperbolization of the China Threat like China will bulldoze through Asia is just propaganda. Most of Asia and Europe can see right through that Sinophobia BS propaganda, because that only benefits US hegemony, and no one else. No one wants to front line guinea pig and get slaughtered.