Death toll in Xinjiang riot rises to 140

Engineer

Major
I am very disappointed with how this riot has been reported in the Western press. Extremely biased...

Take this report for example...
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violence in the ethnic Uighur enclave of Xinjiang in China, where scores of protesters were killed during weekend protests against the Beijing government.

It is as if they are using a template...
violence in the <insert city name> of <insert province> in China, where scores of protesters were killed during <insert time> protests against the Beijing government.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Is it not the policy of the Government of the Peoples republic of china that all commerce is the be carried out in Mandarin?

That's understandable, far better to have one national language to reduce communication problems. Although it might be regarded as tokenism by the Uighurs and other minority groups in the region, perhaps the Central/regional authorities could encourage the teaching of the minority languages at, elementary level anyway, thus reducing the claim that they are stifling minority culture.
 

cmb=1968

Junior Member
That's understandable, far better to have one national language to reduce communication problems. Although it might be regarded as tokenism by the Uighurs and other minority groups in the region, perhaps the Central/regional authorities could encourage the teaching of the minority languages at, elementary level anyway, thus reducing the claim that they are stifling minority culture.


That is economic segregation is it not. Yes in a perfect world everyone speaking the same language would be great, but we don't live in a perfect world.

We live in a world were overbearing governments many bordering incompetence dispensing laws and regulations without to regard to their consequences.

When people protest against the actions of governments they are often suppressed unfortunately many times violently.

Allowing an act of Vigilante justice, which is how this sorry event happened are allowed to go unpunished will only fan the flames of discontent.

I don't doubt that many people on both sides of this disaster are to blame and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Let's not forget that the Communist government of china holds some responsibility for these problems.
 

zaky

Junior Member
This sad event also proves that
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`s theory of
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remain valid.

In the 1993 Foreign Affairs article, Huntington writes:

It is my hypothesis that the fundamental source of conflict in this new world will not be primarily ideological or primarily economic. The great divisions among humankind and the dominating source of conflict will be cultural. Nation states will remain the most powerful actors in world affairs, but the principal conflicts of global politics will occur between nations and groups of different civilizations. The clash of civilizations will dominate global politics. The fault lines between civilizations will be the battle lines of the future.
 

luhai

Banned Idiot
I recognize that what happened to the Native Americans and Africans, who were taken to the new world to be slaves and their descendants was a crime, and I accept the judgment of history. Just because 2000 years ago a map of the domain of an Emperor shows that this area as his does not make it the property of the rest of china until the end of time. Forcing people to speak another language in order to hold a job is no better than forcing them at gun point. There is a Moral relativism between what the Han Chines are doing to the people of Tibet and the Uighur.

I will probably be labeled unpatriotic by my fellow American's, I will accept that Judgment.

What you do have to recognize here is that Chinese have settled in that area of the world before the Uighur have settled there. (In the latest round, the Manchus placed Uighur there to replace the Dzungar Mongols, then displaced Hui in the area after the Dungan revolt.) While the original inhabitants of the area moved on to bigger and brights things as Kushan rulers of India. The situation is have unlike the Muslims in the Balkans, or Goth and Vandals in Spain rather Indians in the Americas.
 

cmb=1968

Junior Member
What you do have to recognize here is that Chinese have settled in that area of the world before the Uighur have settled there. (In the latest round, the Manchus placed Uighur there to replace the Dzungar Mongols, then displaced Hui in the area after the Dungan revolt.) While the original inhabitants of the area moved on to bigger and brights things as Kushan rulers of India. The situation is have unlike the Muslims in the Balkans, or Goth and Vandals in Spain rather Indians in the Americas.

Yes and the Native American did not live in North America on till their Ancestors stumbled across the land bridge from modern day Russia.
 

Quickie

Colonel
Looking at the type of injuries on the dead bodies, it's clear the intention is not just to injure but to make a killing blow. This is a new form of terrorism and it's possible terrorist elements have premeditated this massacre in the name of so-called peaceful protest, and have infiltrated into the mob of protesters in order to terrorise and kill innocent civilians and bystanders.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
That is economic segregation is it not. Yes in a perfect world everyone speaking the same language would be great, but we don't live in a perfect world.

We live in a world were overbearing governments many bordering incompetence dispensing laws and regulations without to regard to their consequences.



When people protest against the actions of governments they are often suppressed unfortunately many times violently.

Allowing an act of Vigilante justice, which is how this sorry event happened are allowed to go unpunished will only fan the flames of discontent.

I don't doubt that many people on both sides of this disaster are to blame and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Let's not forget that the Communist government of china holds some responsibility for these problems.

Im in total agreement with you there.

Meanwhile here's a piece by Dr Jian Junbo assoc. prof. of University of, Shanghai, in the atimes. He presents a interesting theory for the underlying causes:
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Engineer

Major
Yes and the Native American did not live in North America on till their Ancestors stumbled across the land bridge from modern day Russia.

No. Again, it's a bad example. Your example ignored the fact that the native americans got to North America first, not the white people. The Uighur, however, wasn't the first to be in Xinjiang.
 

yehe

Junior Member
Yes and the Native American did not live in North America on till their Ancestors stumbled across the land bridge from modern day Russia.

Comparing somethig that happened 50000 years ago with something that happened 250years ago? Something that happened naturly on a uninhabited land with something that the Qing dynasty purposely done? The Uigher were practically put into this so called "invaded homeland" of thiers by the Chinese Qing dynasty to replace the rebelled but failed mongols, who btw are also another invader, this is a chinese homeland, been part of China for a long consistent time alltheway until now, but in many westerners eye, after all the hostile and misleading antichinese news and "facts" the chinese are a invader, lol, how ironic.
 
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