Death toll in Xinjiang riot rises to 140

Baibar of Jalat

Junior Member
If it was the case, why most of the dead were Ethnic Han Chinese and Hui? Why most of the dead were clubbed or stabbed to death, instead of being shot?

I think I spoke before I knew the facts. We have to wait and see what infomation comes out of area.
 

never44u

Just Hatched
Registered Member
I don't know what to say, just felt lucky of getting back home from Xinjiang. Two weeks ago I was there for sightseeing...

***************** Maybe because they saw so many unfair things to them, i.e. Han are rich they are poor, Han is leading the country they are being led, etc. They really don't know all things happened for a reason. In stead of thinking why they are being so poor and being led or what they called be discrimated, they just don't know why only they are the only group to feel so. Maybe it's generic, or religious, or whatever.

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cmb=1968

Junior Member
I don't know what to say, just felt lucky of getting back home from Xinjiang. Two weeks ago I was there for sightseeing...

I think all Muslim are the same, extreme violent in nature,they are born to revenge, I think most of them are living not to figure out why revenge or what to revenge of but just do it. Maybe because they saw so many unfair things to them, i.e. Han are rich they are poor, Han is leading the country they are being led, etc. They really don't know all things happened for a reason. In stead of thinking why they are being so poor and being led or what they called be discrimated, they just don't know why only they are the only group to feel so. Maybe it's generic, or religious, or whatever.

How would you feel is the United states took over your town region country sends Scores of white people and soldiers to protect them forced you to speak english? The communist government should count its blessings that the situation has not devolved into an insurgency like in Iraq and Pakistan or worse New York.
 

Baibar of Jalat

Junior Member
I don't know what to say, just felt lucky of getting back home from Xinjiang. Two weeks ago I was there for sightseeing...

I think all Muslim are the same, extreme violent in nature,they are born to revenge, I think most of them are living not to figure out why revenge or what to revenge of but just do it. Maybe because they saw so many unfair things to them, i.e. Han are rich they are poor, Han is leading the country they are being led, etc. They really don't know all things happened for a reason. In stead of thinking why they are being so poor and being led or what they called be discrimated, they just don't know why only they are the only group to feel so. Maybe it's generic, or religious, or whatever.

Just change certain words and this would look like a post written last year about Tibetians.

In US some people write things like that about black people. Watts Riot, LA riots etc. LA riots Korean business were attacked on mass.

Not forgotting the many riots provoked by percieved "discrimination" across the world.
 

yehe

Junior Member
How would you feel is the United states took over your town region country sends Scores of white people and soldiers to protect them forced you to speak english? The communist government should count its blessings that the situation has not devolved into an insurgency like in Iraq and Pakistan or worse New York.

Like what they did in America to the Indians? They were pretty sucessful as we can see.

Besides, its hardly the same thing, while Indians are native in American, Uighers are not native in Xinjiang, the old Uigherstan Khanet lays in todays Mongolia and Russia far up in north, they dont have anymore claim over the Xinjiang than the Han Chinese, they are migrants themself, Chinese empire first controlled and administrated the area already during Han dynasty time almost 2000 years ago, its part of the Nation-China now, and you actually saying that they dont have to learn the official language, not want protection and controll of the country and still expect to not get discriminated in job market and alot other things? Now thats naive. Its like I go to USA and dont want to be ¤protected¤ by the american soldiers and police, dont speak english yet still demand a good job and no discrimination. Aint that gonna happen?

Just change certain words and this would look like a post written last year about Tibetians.

In US some people write things like that about black people. Watts Riot, LA riots etc. LA riots Korean business were attacked on mass.

Not forgotting the many riots provoked by percieved "discrimination" across the world.

Agree to that, stereotyping a entire people or religion is stupid, but there are tendencies.
 
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antimatter

Banned Idiot
Angry chinese mobs to hunt out Uighurs for justice

URUMQI, China (AFP) – Thousands of angry Han Chinese armed with poles, meat cleavers and other makeshift weapons stormed through Urumqi Tuesday as the flashpoint city riven by ethnic tensions descended into chaos.

Heavily armed security forces fired tear gas at the crowds and ordered a night curfew in an effort to restore calm in Urumqi, the capital of China's remote northwest Xinjiang region where 156 people died in weekend clashes.

But tensions remained at boiling point, with Han Chinese roaming the city wielding machetes, bricks, chains, steel bars and other weapons while calling for revenge against Muslim Uighurs who they blamed for Sunday's carnage.

"The Uighurs came to our area to smash things, now we are going to their area to beat them," one protester, who was carrying a metal pipe, told AFP.

Sunday's unrest, which also left more than 1,000 people injured, began with protests by Xinjiang's Uighurs, who have long complained of repression under Han Chinese rule.

Chinese authorities have blamed exiled Muslim Uighurs for masterminding the unrest -- charges they deny -- and announced Tuesday they had arrested 1,434 suspects for murder, assault, looting and other crimes linked to the unrest.

But Han Chinese in Urumqi declared they were not satisfied with the government response.

"There are more of us," said Dong Sun, a 19-year-old leader of one mob, in reference to the number of Han Chinese versus Uighurs.

"It is time we looked after ourselves instead of waiting for the government."

Police prevented the crowds, one of which an AFP reporter estimated was more than 10,000-strong, from entering Uighur neighbourhoods by firing tear gas and erecting barricades.

But in other areas of Urumqi police and other security personnel simply looked on as mobs swept through the streets shouting vitriol against Uighurs.

The mobs roamed Urumqi all afternoon and by early evening many were still seen walking the streets carrying their weapons.

The only incident of direct violence against a Uighur that AFP witnessed was when a small mob stopped a car being driven by a Uighur man. The mob smashed his car but the man was able to drive off.

There were no reports from Chinese state media of direct violence against Uighurs.

Xinjiang Communist Party chief Wang Lequan called for calm as authorities announced the night-time curfew.

"Some Han people took to the streets in Urumqi today, disrupting social order. This is not necessary at all," Xinhua news agency quoted Wang Lequan was quoted as saying.

"Neither the Han nor Uighur people are willing to see the Han people being attacked. It is the same the other way around. If the Han people attack the innocent Uighur people, it is also heart-breaking."

China's eight million Uighurs are a Turkic-speaking people who have long complained about the influx of Han Chinese into what they regard as their homeland, a vast area of mountains and deserts that borders Central Asia.

Exiled Uighur groups have sought to lay the blame for Sunday's violence on Chinese authorities, saying the protests were peaceful until Chinese security forces over-reacted and fired indiscriminately on crowds.

China has accused exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer of masterminding the violence, but she has denied the accusations and called on Monday for an international probe into the violence.

"We hope that the United Nations, the United States and the European Union will send teams to investigate what really took place in Xinjiang," Kadeer told reporters in Washington, urging a forceful response from the White House.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, in a brief statement issued from Moscow during US President Barack Obama's visit there, said the United States was "deeply concerned" about the reports of deaths in Urumqi.

The statement called for "all in Xinjiang to exercise restraint."

The identities of those killed and injured in the riots remained unclear on Tuesday. Chinese authorities have not said how many were Han Chinese or Uighur.

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Lion

Senior Member
How would you feel is the United states took over your town region country sends Scores of white people and soldiers to protect them forced you to speak english? The communist government should count its blessings that the situation has not devolved into an insurgency like in Iraq and Pakistan or worse New York.

A kettle calling a pot black.

At least the Uighur now in China can still speak in their own language and practice their own culture. The African black in American now all they know is English.
During the slave times, any black heard speaking anything other than English are flog by their master.

Any North America continent belongs to Red Indian.
 

Engineer

Major
How would you feel is the United states took over your town region country sends Scores of white people and soldiers to protect them forced you to speak english?

How is this analogy remotely related to the current situation? First of all, people go to where there are opportunities, and Xinjiang has opportunities. Chinese government can't just prevent people from moving to Xinjiang because that would be a violation of freedom of movement. This applies to Tibet, too. Secondly, people can speak whatever language they please in China. It's not like the police is ready to arrest anyone who doesn't speak Mandarin.

And why is so many people in the west has this misconception that Tibet and Xinjiang were invaded by CCP? Just because China is being ran by CCP, that doesn't mean it automatically lose claims to its territories.
 
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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Gents no need for any more than this thread about Xinjiang..

And >>.keep the discussion centered on the situation in Xinjiang


bd popeye super moderator
 

zhangjf

Just Hatched
Registered Member
I don't think this is a peaceful demostration, if the majority of the crowds are peaceful, and the violence are caused by PAP's openning fire, there can not be so many people died from fire and knives. And someone has mentioned before that if this is not a organized action, how can we explain the 220 fire breaking out in the city? And we can see from the video that a man was killed by cutting his throat , I don't think this is what common people can do, only trained killers can do this so easily.
 
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