CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)

H2O

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The latest high-resolution images of carrier Liaoning in dry dock being overhauled.

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What an odd placement for those blue colored "ATCO" modular offices. :p Most likely not what I'm thinking of as it's rather pointless to do so (just a knee-jerk reaction).
 

Intrepid

Major
They adding catapult ?
I don't think so.

According to the stories, Varyag was prepared for a steam catapult on the oblique deck, unlike the Kuznetsov.

The Chinese will no longer install a steam catapult. And to convert the ship to an electromagnetic catapult I can't imagine (yet).

It will probably be a routine shipyard visit.
 

Strangelove

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PLA Navy aircraft carrier Shandong transits Taiwan Straits after US missile delivery to Taiwan island

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Published: May 27, 2023 06:50 PM

The picture shows aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military

The picture shows aircraft carrier Shandong berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier Shandong (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military


A Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy flotilla led by the aircraft carrier Shandong reportedly sailed through the Taiwan Straits on Saturday, amid intensive PLA warplane and warship activities around the island of Taiwan following US delivery of Stinger missiles to the island.

Chinese mainland experts said the Taiwan Straits is the shortest route for the south-based aircraft carrier to travel north for either training missions or maintenance. It can send warnings to the "Taiwan independence" force in the process, experts noted.

Armed forces on the island of Taiwan detected a flotilla of three PLA Navy vessels, including the aircraft carrier Shandong, when they headed north steering along the western side of the Taiwan Straits on Saturday noon, the defense authority on the island confirmed in a press release.

Some 33 PLA aircraft and 10 PLA vessels were detected from multiple directions around the island over the past day, the island's defense authority said in a separate press release earlier on Saturday.

While the PLA holds daily exercises and patrols around the island of Taiwan, the figures released on Saturday are above the usual average, and could be providing cover for or holding a joint exercise with the Shandong, observers said.

The PLA has yet to announce the Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit as of press time, nor has any mission been made public.

Observers said that it could be on a routine training mission or on its way to receive a scheduled maintenance.

China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, is still undergoing a scheduled overhaul at the Dalian Shipyard in Northeast China's Liaoning Province since late February, which is not expected to end anytime soon because many key shipborne systems and components have been removed as a part of the refurbishment, according to a news report on May 19.

It is possible that the Shandong could help train north-based carrier aviation units in the Bohai Sea and the Yellow Sea to make up for the absence of the Liaoning, experts speculated.

Both the Liaoning and the Shandong are tasked with the mission to train carrier-based pilots, Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Saturday.

In early April, as a part of countermeasure against Taiwan regional leader Tsai Ing-wen's provocative meeting with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy when she "transited" in the US, the Shandong took part in the combat alert patrols and
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, marking the carrier's first far sea exercise beyond the first island chain since its commissioning in December 2019.

The Shandong cruised from the South China Sea to the eastern coast of the island of Taiwan, then to waters off Guam before returning during the month-long exercise, hosted record-breaking aircraft sorties and collaborated with other forces including the PLA Rocket Force, displaying its high capabilities in deterring "Taiwan independence" secessionist and foreign interference forces.

It could also be possible that the carrier may require maintenance after such intensive operations, analysts said. In past years, the Shandong has used the Taiwan Straits as what experts called the shortest route between its homeport in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province and the Dalian Shipyard to undergo maintenance, according to media reports.

The Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit comes shortly after the defense authority on the island of Taiwan confirmed the
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had arrived in the island while Washington is also reportedly helping the island obtain access to NATO's Link-22 secure data link system.

Song said that the Shandong is expected to play a vital role if a military conflict breaks out in the Taiwan Straits, so it needs to enhance its combat capabilities in all regions, including in the Taiwan Straits and in waters to the east side of the island of Taiwan.

No matter how the US supports "Taiwan independence" forces in resisting reunification by force, the PLA will be able to resolve the Taiwan question, Song said.
 

by78

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PLA Navy aircraft carrier Shandong transits Taiwan Straits after US missile delivery to Taiwan island

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Published: May 27, 2023 06:50 PM

The picture shows aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military's first domestically-made aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military

The picture shows aircraft carrier Shandong berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier Shandong (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military


A Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy flotilla led by the aircraft carrier Shandong reportedly sailed through the Taiwan Straits on Saturday, amid intensive PLA warplane and warship activities around the island of Taiwan following US delivery of Stinger missiles to the island.

Chinese mainland experts said the Taiwan Straits is the shortest route for the south-based aircraft carrier to travel north for either training missions or maintenance. It can send warnings to the "Taiwan independence" force in the process, experts noted.

Armed forces on the island of Taiwan detected a flotilla of three PLA Navy vessels, including the aircraft carrier Shandong, when they headed north steering along the western side of the Taiwan Straits on Saturday noon, the defense authority on the island confirmed in a press release.

Some 33 PLA aircraft and 10 PLA vessels were detected from multiple directions around the island over the past day, the island's defense authority said in a separate press release earlier on Saturday.

While the PLA holds daily exercises and patrols around the island of Taiwan, the figures released on Saturday are above the usual average, and could be providing cover for or holding a joint exercise with the Shandong, observers said.

The PLA has yet to announce the Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit as of press time, nor has any mission been made public.

Observers said that it could be on a routine training mission or on its way to receive a scheduled maintenance.

China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, is still undergoing a scheduled overhaul at the Dalian Shipyard in Northeast China's Liaoning Province since late February, which is not expected to end anytime soon because many key shipborne systems and components have been removed as a part of the refurbishment, according to a news report on May 19.

It is possible that the Shandong could help train north-based carrier aviation units in the Bohai Sea and the Yellow Sea to make up for the absence of the Liaoning, experts speculated.

Both the Liaoning and the Shandong are tasked with the mission to train carrier-based pilots, Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Saturday.

In early April, as a part of countermeasure against Taiwan regional leader Tsai Ing-wen's provocative meeting with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy when she "transited" in the US, the Shandong took part in the combat alert patrols and
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, marking the carrier's first far sea exercise beyond the first island chain since its commissioning in December 2019.

The Shandong cruised from the South China Sea to the eastern coast of the island of Taiwan, then to waters off Guam before returning during the month-long exercise, hosted record-breaking aircraft sorties and collaborated with other forces including the PLA Rocket Force, displaying its high capabilities in deterring "Taiwan independence" secessionist and foreign interference forces.

It could also be possible that the carrier may require maintenance after such intensive operations, analysts said. In past years, the Shandong has used the Taiwan Straits as what experts called the shortest route between its homeport in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province and the Dalian Shipyard to undergo maintenance, according to media reports.

The Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit comes shortly after the defense authority on the island of Taiwan confirmed the
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had arrived in the island while Washington is also reportedly helping the island obtain access to NATO's Link-22 secure data link system.

Song said that the Shandong is expected to play a vital role if a military conflict breaks out in the Taiwan Straits, so it needs to enhance its combat capabilities in all regions, including in the Taiwan Straits and in waters to the east side of the island of Taiwan.

No matter how the US supports "Taiwan independence" forces in resisting reunification by force, the PLA will be able to resolve the Taiwan question, Song said.

Could you ease up on posting articles from Global Times? It's a rubbish source in the same class as the CNN. We also don't need constant updates on routine movements of Chinese ships.
 

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I do find it quite useful to be made aware of GT articles too, if only to see what is in the officially sanctioned sphere of information.

This is different of course from speculative nonsense like Minnie Chan at SCMP etc.
 

by78

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If the information is in the public sphere, why not? We get to see routine movements of US fleets so it would be nice to see what the Chinese Navy is doing as well.

I do find it quite useful to be made aware of GT articles too, if only to see what is in the officially sanctioned sphere of information.

This is different of course from speculative nonsense like Minnie Chan at SCMP etc.

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PLA Navy aircraft carrier Shandong transits Taiwan Straits after US missile delivery to Taiwan island

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Published: May 27, 2023 06:50 PM

The picture shows aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military's first domestically-made aircraft carrier <em>Shandong</em> (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military

The picture shows aircraft carrier Shandong berths at a naval port in Sanya. China's first domestically-made aircraft carrier Shandong (Hull 17) was officially commissioned to the PLA Navy at a military port in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province, on the afternoon of December 17, 2019, making China one of the few countries in the world that have multiple carriers. Photo:China Military


A Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy flotilla led by the aircraft carrier Shandong reportedly sailed through the Taiwan Straits on Saturday, amid intensive PLA warplane and warship activities around the island of Taiwan following US delivery of Stinger missiles to the island.

Chinese mainland experts said the Taiwan Straits is the shortest route for the south-based aircraft carrier to travel north for either training missions or maintenance. It can send warnings to the "Taiwan independence" force in the process, experts noted.

Armed forces on the island of Taiwan detected a flotilla of three PLA Navy vessels, including the aircraft carrier Shandong, when they headed north steering along the western side of the Taiwan Straits on Saturday noon, the defense authority on the island confirmed in a press release.

Some 33 PLA aircraft and 10 PLA vessels were detected from multiple directions around the island over the past day, the island's defense authority said in a separate press release earlier on Saturday.

While the PLA holds daily exercises and patrols around the island of Taiwan, the figures released on Saturday are above the usual average, and could be providing cover for or holding a joint exercise with the Shandong, observers said.

The PLA has yet to announce the Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit as of press time, nor has any mission been made public.

Observers said that it could be on a routine training mission or on its way to receive a scheduled maintenance.

China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, is still undergoing a scheduled overhaul at the Dalian Shipyard in Northeast China's Liaoning Province since late February, which is not expected to end anytime soon because many key shipborne systems and components have been removed as a part of the refurbishment, according to a news report on May 19.

It is possible that the Shandong could help train north-based carrier aviation units in the Bohai Sea and the Yellow Sea to make up for the absence of the Liaoning, experts speculated.

Both the Liaoning and the Shandong are tasked with the mission to train carrier-based pilots, Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Saturday.

In early April, as a part of countermeasure against Taiwan regional leader Tsai Ing-wen's provocative meeting with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy when she "transited" in the US, the Shandong took part in the combat alert patrols and
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, marking the carrier's first far sea exercise beyond the first island chain since its commissioning in December 2019.

The Shandong cruised from the South China Sea to the eastern coast of the island of Taiwan, then to waters off Guam before returning during the month-long exercise, hosted record-breaking aircraft sorties and collaborated with other forces including the PLA Rocket Force, displaying its high capabilities in deterring "Taiwan independence" secessionist and foreign interference forces.

It could also be possible that the carrier may require maintenance after such intensive operations, analysts said. In past years, the Shandong has used the Taiwan Straits as what experts called the shortest route between its homeport in Sanya, South China's Hainan Province and the Dalian Shipyard to undergo maintenance, according to media reports.

The Shandong's Taiwan Straits transit comes shortly after the defense authority on the island of Taiwan confirmed the
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had arrived in the island while Washington is also reportedly helping the island obtain access to NATO's Link-22 secure data link system.

Song said that the Shandong is expected to play a vital role if a military conflict breaks out in the Taiwan Straits, so it needs to enhance its combat capabilities in all regions, including in the Taiwan Straits and in waters to the east side of the island of Taiwan.

No matter how the US supports "Taiwan independence" forces in resisting reunification by force, the PLA will be able to resolve the Taiwan question, Song said.

No, Global Times is neither an 'official' source nor a credible source, nor does it have privileged access to insider information. It's a tabloid and a proven rubbish source on military matters. It's certainly stronk on political spin but weak on factual and technical accuracy. Whatever news it does publish, the same information is almost certainly carried by other outlets and sources minus the bombast and sensationalism.

Just because something is published in the public domain doesn't mean it meets the standards of this forum. There are very good reasons the community frown upon sharing information from CNN, Minnie Chan, the Diplomat (Rick Joe excepted), and these reasons are borne from experience.
 
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