Crisis in the Ukraine

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Lets watch for start of orchestrated media campaign blaming the Cease Fire collapse on "Pootin"

interesting statement in the light of today's gazeta.ru article
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"Donbass Prepares for War", sub-title "The Prime Minister of DPR Is Going to "Reclaim" Kramatorsk, Slavyansk and Mariupol"
(DPR:
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which says ...

anyway, the press-release by Separatists (1400 of local time today):
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"The DPR Leadership Announced Start of the Offensive"
 

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Cassad talks about the coming battle for Donbas and the size of the Kiev forces available to throw into the fight.

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On the size of the Ukrainian army in the upcoming attack on the Donbass

"Recently, especially over the past five days, frequent conversations about preparing Ukraine next decisive attack in the Donbas. Closest estimated time it began to be called on October 26-27."
 

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I read about Russian artillery aiding the capture of Lugansk airport but seems Donetsk is too far from the border to shoot over. Hence, the pretty grinding taking of it.

I translated the whole article using Google translate. The result was stodgy as hell and some background script manage to crash Firefox about three times.
Despite this I muddled through.
At no point does it claim that Russian Regular forces were fighting in the Ukraine and in fact vehemently denies this. It does little more than reiterate that which is already accepted, Russian volunteers and advisers, plus the presence of some special forces on the ground in a none combat role. If there was anything new in this article, it was perhaps that the Special Forces were not simply doing reconnaissance for Russia but may have been providing targeting information to Novorossiyan Artillery Units (no doubt being commanded by volunteer Russian Regulars).

In short nothing more than we already knew or already accepted as being quite likely.
Still no armoured columns as claimed by the Ukraine and US State Dept.
 
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Well only the words of Obama and his friends count. Now we have Sweden screaming about Russian submarine invasion.
Civilian don't count. Even AP with teams tagging along with the militia couldn't produce any such photos at all.

I cannot accept that any country would send their army into an invasion with a deliberate serious handicap of making them wear cast off banana republic gear, no kevlar helmet, no bullet prof vest, and using cast off Chicom knockoffs!

Seriously unbelievable that Putin would send his soldiers to die like rats against a better equipped Ukraine punitive force.
Logic is missing somewhere.

Dan, for once, I want to disagree with you. If there are official Russian units in east Ukraine, there would be videos taken on the ground by civilians.
 

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Zaharchenko promised to return Slovyansk, Kramators'k and Mariupol

Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed People's Republic of Donetsk Alexander Zaharchenko announced the beginning of the offensive on the position of the Ukrainian militia security forces.
According to him, the fighting resumed in connection with the fact that Kiev does not observe the "silent mode" in the east of Ukraine, "Interfax." ( Close )


"" Silent Mode "is observed only by us. On the day before yesterday and we started to respond. Yesterday and today it was quieter, "- said Zakharchenko.
The prime minister did not rule out the beginning of the DNI of heavy fighting in connection with plans militia to regain control of towns near the Donbass. According Zaharchenko, including Kramators'k, Mariupol and Slavic. "Kramators'k, Mariupol and Slavic - they will be ours. We are going to pick them up, to regain. So it can not be excluded even heavy fighting, "- he stressed.
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- zinc PS. In the light of the negotiating impasse in Milan and the systematic targeting of Donetsk and other cities and villages of the DNI, then act up on the theme "we observe a truce, and the junta is no" no special meaning - on the background of daily corpses and destruction, all this "Minsk" rhetoric is openly and cynical mockery of the people and common sense. Are the pre-election statements Zaharchenko-calming nature or for those statements follow any military action is not yet clear. I think in the next 1-2 days it will become clear. Themselves shelling continued yesterday, only from artillery fire in the army Novorossia DNR lost 5 people killed.
 

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Where is Ukraine getting the resupply of SS-21 Scarab missiles after firing off their stock and is still continuing to fire?

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Google Translated:

Tactical missile systems "point" is the most powerful means of destruction in the Ukrainian army. During the fighting, they are actively used for various purposes in the New Russia . According to estimates of experts, the stock of "points" must have already run out, but the rocket fire continues. About this in his article, writes Dmitry Lemeshko.

"Missiles" points "can be fitted with different warheads. Thus, in one embodiment, the weight of high-explosive fragmentation warhead can reach nearly half a ton. It is able to mow the goal on an area of ​​three hectares, attacking the enemy to 14.5 thousand. Fragments. For the best possible air defeat subversion "- the author notes.

But more dangerous is the rocket with 50 fragmentation submunitions, it reaches the affected area of ​​7 hectares.

Lemeshko recalls that "the first launch took place in late July on a strategic height Saur-Tomb, all along it was applied 8 missiles with high-explosive fragmentation part." Then missiles have been used by the shelling of Lugansk, Donetsk and their neighborhoods. "Moreover, in the course were launched missiles with cluster warheads, which is a violation of international norms" - recalls the author.

Kiev constantly denied that any "points". Denied, even when this has already openly wrote the Western media. They, incidentally, is also reported that the Americans were going to turn to the Kiev authorities to halt the use of these systems. But most likely it is not addressed because the missile launches continued. Total military experts have counted more than 70 strokes.

If so, the "Ukrainian missile arsenals had to go blank for a long time, but the missiles still fly," - said Lemeshko. Recent attacks in the area of ​​Donetsk were made on Monday.

"So who was to supply Ukraine with missiles of this type? As is known, the "points" were in the armies of the Warsaw Pact countries, which are now in NATO. Therefore, the possibility exists that "mladonatovtsy" shared the remnants of their arsenals. Rockets could be delivered in Kharkiv American aircraft C-17 "- the author puts forward his own version.

He also does not rule out errors in the counting starts, which could be associated with incorrect identification of ammunition. For the "point" could be taken, such as "single launches projectiles MRLS type" Smerch "," which is actually realized in the Donbas, concludes Dmitry Lemeshko.

Author: Dmitry Lemeshko
 

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War alert as Kiev forces move into jump off points.

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Special correspondent of "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Dmitry Steshin said in microblogging network Twitter, that the Ukrainian army, the National Guard and punitive battalions ready to attack on election day.

"In Donetsk continues lull Defense Minister confirmed DNI: APU ready to attack the day of elections to the Rada. Militia brought to the position, "- said Steshin Saturday morning. On Friday, the special correspondent of the CP also spoke about the alarming situation in the city. "Ironically, in Donetsk on Friday disturbs not constant cannonade, and almost daily lull. Silence is knocked out of the usual context bothers everyone without exception. News comes bad. We have checked them through their sealed sources, and asked officials - Zaharchenko, carpentry, Brain. All speak with one voice - Ukrainian army is preparing an offensive. Former Commander of the DNI Igor Gunmen noticed that ATO took troops' offensive configuration. " By leaking information, the Ukrainian army continues to stand in the fields. Of course, in the fields, it will not hibernate, then waits for the order to move. Intensified drones over checkpoints and positions in key areas for the offensive. The enemy provokes attacks militia to open fire system. Despite the loss, conducted "reconnaissance in force". A week ago, a company of armored vehicles tried to pass between the militia positions in Gorlovka and Enakieve. Probe weaknesses, pinpointing the firing points, checked the interaction of two garrisons, their response to changes in the operational environment, pinpointing the frequency at which the radio is underway. Intelligence reports the militia constantly moving armored vehicles near Donetsk. According to preliminary data, in order to attack, I outlined four areas - from Debaltseve with sand, and Avdeyevka Volnovakha. The task will take Donetsk in the ring, cut off from the outside world, and capture of the city, making it unfit for life. How to Sarajevo or Syrian Homs. Lull near Donetsk can be explained only by savings ammunition before large-scale artillery barrage. Of course, retaliate. For example, the militia has intensified dramatically under Mariupol, in the farthest corner of the theater: "to razdergat" forces preparing to attack. Near Donetsk on new "dangerous" areas are built defensive positions, militia forces in full combat zinc PS. Well here in the next few days and see if startled junta alarmitskaya rhetoric and revitalization "PX". Or the decision on the offensive line within the United States, does not depend on what he wants or does not want to Kiev junta. PS2. On the net today went strange rumor that the arrow allegedly recalled from leave and will coordinate the actions of the armed forces of the DNI and LC. Since no evidence from the Strelkova yet, then seriously consider this information is still difficult, especially since shortly after the resignation Strelkova were rumors that he would take the position.
 
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