Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
CCP was once a real communist party. it classified people as classes. it didn't support oversea Chinese, it only supported oversea communist movements. also because of the legacy between oversea Chinese and the KMT in Taiwan, ccp used to look at oversea chinese with suspicions.
China under CCP claim to be the proud inheritor of 5000 year Chinese civilization then behave like one. Otherwise it is empty word and platitude. You can even act under the name of Humanitarian cause . Go to UN and protest. Issue public statement to condemn the racist pogrom. Provide airlift or temporary sanctuary. During 1998 SQ provide non stop evacuation from stranded and terrified passenger. And Spore provide temporary visa and sanctuary. Don't hide under the guise of "non interference" It has outlive it usefulness. The west couldn't care They will attack China or Chinese interest every where in the world. And overseas Chinese will bear the brunt of these attack. Of course they didn't do it themselves but plenty of help from corrupt radical moslem or corrupt Imam. People will see the Chinese impotent if they don't act and lost respect

Heck Israel a small nation mounted "Operation Solomon" to rescue socalled "Ethiopan Jew" Even though they are probably 100o years remote from the Israeli and look more like African Here it is

Operation Solomon: Airlifting 14,000 Jews out of Ethiopia​

1625241036275.png

In 1991, Ethiopia was coming to the end of a long civil war and the government was close to being toppled.
Israel was concerned for the ancient community of Ethiopian Jews and did a deal with the tottering regime to airlift thousands of people out of the country.
The Israelis were given less than two days to carry out Operation Solomon. During that window, they flew more than 14,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel - one of them was Daniel Nadawo, who was 11 at the time.
He spoke to Witness about that day.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

Shaolian

Junior Member
Registered Member
Ok, 6 years ago, during an episode of racial tensions in Malaysia, China did intervened, however subtly, but it worked. I'll just quote what I posted here in this forum a while back.

So, from this instance China did looked out, maybe not directly, but the effect did implied they did care, at least as far as Malaysian Chinese is concerned.

I want to tell of an incident that happened a few years back, in Malaysia. A local politician had been fostering a wave of anti-Chinese sentiments, culminating into a promise to create havoc in a local Chinatown. The previous week he and his group of thugs had already been gathering outside of Chinatown, spewing hatred and promising to return the next week "to get the job done". All this while the police was at the scene to "monitor" them, but nothing much else. This raised tensions to a height rarely seen in decades, and there was a real sense of hopelessness among the local community.

The shops of Chinatown were already thinking of shuttering down for the weekend, when in the middle of the week, the Chinese ambassador and an entourage took a walk down Chinatown. This was happening during the Mid Autumn Festival, and they eventually stopped at a local restaurant to sample their mooncakes, and the Ambassador commented on how lovely the atmosphere and celebration of the festival are locally. He then went on to say that it would be a pity then if this would be brought to an end by any irresponsible behaviors. He then added that China values the friendship she has with Malaysia, and would not stand idly by to allowed any individual to sabotage that relationahip, nor to allow China's citizens to come to harm (but did not specifically refer to the local Chinese diaspora).

The Ambassador's actions and speech was all over the press, and the next day, that same local politician that was threatening Chinatown was apprehended by the police, locked up and questioned over his threats.

Tensions pretty much died down there and then.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
China under CCP claim to be the proud inheritor of 5000 year Chinese civilization then behave like one. Otherwise it is empty word and platitude. You can even act under the name of Humanitarian cause . Go to UN and protest. Issue public statement to condemn the racist pogrom. Provide airlift or temporary sanctuary. During 1998 SQ provide non stop evacuation from stranded and terrified passenger. And Spore provide temporary visa and sanctuary. Don't hide under the guise of "non interference" It has outlive it usefulness. The west couldn't care They will attack China or Chinese interest every where in the world. And overseas Chinese will bear the brunt of these attack. Of course they didn't do it themselves but plenty of help from corrupt radical moslem or corrupt Imam. People will see the Chinese impotent if they don't act and lost respect

Heck Israel a small nation mounted "Operation Solomon" to rescue socalled "Ethiopan Jew" Even though they are probably 100o years remote from the Israeli and look more like African Here it is

Operation Solomon: Airlifting 14,000 Jews out of Ethiopia​

View attachment 74205

In 1991, Ethiopia was coming to the end of a long civil war and the government was close to being toppled.
Israel was concerned for the ancient community of Ethiopian Jews and did a deal with the tottering regime to airlift thousands of people out of the country.
The Israelis were given less than two days to carry out Operation Solomon. During that window, they flew more than 14,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel - one of them was Daniel Nadawo, who was 11 at the time.
He spoke to Witness about that day.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
You are making two points:
1. You advocate and demand PRC to intervene foreign country's domestic affairs on behalf of foreign nationals of Chinese heritage, including your own country (in case of Singapore).
2. You take Etheopian Jews as a "good" example.

My thoughts:
The first point will do more damage to people you want to protect including yourself, because you are alienating yourself with your other countrymen (Indonesian, Malay or Indians). It does not matter where you claim your heritage. Remember China is not your home anymore some long time ago since your ancestors left the territory of Qing dynasty.

The first point does NOT help your cause in the mind of PRC, nor mainland Chinese, precisely because of your complain and condemnation of their "inactivity". One can not expect sympathy for other people by condemning them, not even your own brothers. Slap your brother in the face on the street and see what happens later when you are in need of help.

The first point also demonstrate that you expect privilege of ethnic Chinese than other citizens. That is colonialism in nature, no difference from the European colonialism in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Are you in support of colonialism of your own but "hate" colonialism by others? You have to answer the question first before continue any further with your demand.

The second point is irrelevant. Israel did NOT exist before 1945. All early Israelis at the foundation of the state of Israel are citizens of various countries. The state made it a law that grant any Jews to be eligible to Israeli citizen. The Ethiopian Jews are as much Israeli citizen as the Jews in 1945 so long as they choose to declare so. The Israeli government was simply rescuing its own citizens residing abroad.

The situation is similar to any foreign born person to Chinese parent(s) who automatically received foreign citizenship by place of birth. These Chinese are legally Chinese citizen from their birth so long as they make the claim before the age of 18. This is in the law. PRC would protect them as much as Israel protected those Ethiopian Jews in 1991. And China has demonstrated that will and capability in Libya in 2011.

91 chartered Chinese flights. 35 chartered foreign flights. 12 military airlifters. 11 chartered foreign sea ferries. 5 Chinese merchant ships and one naval frigate. 35860 Chinese citizens and 2100 foreign citizens from 12 countries.

I also want to clarify one thing about your "China abandoned its daughters". At the 1950s, SEA ethnic Chinese were given the choice of claiming either Chinese citizenship or citizenship of residing countries when these countries gained independence. The ones who chose Chinese (PRC) citizenship were repatriated to mainland China, about 600000 as I remember. I had one school mate being one of them. The ones choose to stay are pro-KMT, they choose the citizenship of the host country, I don't know if they could have chosen "citizenship" of ROC. Either way most of them are suspicious of PRC, or outright hate PRC. Now I ask you who abandoned whom? Why don't you call "ROC" abandoning their own loyal citizens?

It is always a tragedy when people suffering regardless their political loyalty, BUT the cause and responsibility MUST remain clear and just.
 

solarz

Brigadier
China under CCP claim to be the proud inheritor of 5000 year Chinese civilization then behave like one. Otherwise it is empty word and platitude. You can even act under the name of Humanitarian cause . Go to UN and protest. Issue public statement to condemn the racist pogrom. Provide airlift or temporary sanctuary. During 1998 SQ provide non stop evacuation from stranded and terrified passenger. And Spore provide temporary visa and sanctuary. Don't hide under the guise of "non interference" It has outlive it usefulness. The west couldn't care They will attack China or Chinese interest every where in the world. And overseas Chinese will bear the brunt of these attack. Of course they didn't do it themselves but plenty of help from corrupt radical moslem or corrupt Imam. People will see the Chinese impotent if they don't act and lost respect

Heck Israel a small nation mounted "Operation Solomon" to rescue socalled "Ethiopan Jew" Even though they are probably 100o years remote from the Israeli and look more like African Here it is

Operation Solomon: Airlifting 14,000 Jews out of Ethiopia​

View attachment 74205

In 1991, Ethiopia was coming to the end of a long civil war and the government was close to being toppled.
Israel was concerned for the ancient community of Ethiopian Jews and did a deal with the tottering regime to airlift thousands of people out of the country.
The Israelis were given less than two days to carry out Operation Solomon. During that window, they flew more than 14,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel - one of them was Daniel Nadawo, who was 11 at the time.
He spoke to Witness about that day.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

So you are justifying Singapore kowtowing to the West by bringing up China's non-intervention during the 1998 riots?

Thanks for proving my point.

They know they will always be at the mercy of bigger countries, so they seek the protection of the strongest faction.
 

KYli

Brigadier
You always wonder how low these people would willing to sink just to demonize China.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

So these conservatives do value their lives. I thought they are fearless and would never take vaccines.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Guess Sinovac is very popular in Singapore.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

SEA seems to have a great difficult to contain Delta variant. It means that this variant is really contagious.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
If Taiwan government doesn't sabotage the negotiation, then the vaccines should deliver fairly soon.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
They never cared when the vaccines can be delivered and how many Taiwan people are going to die. All they care is how to get rid of any slight shred of connection with mainland China, either cargo transportation between or mainland company (Fosun). But in the end they just can't win.

I dare to say that the only reason that the delivery is from Germany directly is not what they wanted to present as "per their negotiation" but rather because Fosun does not produce the vaccine yet. If Fosun does produce today, I bet Taiwan government will have to get the delivery from mainland. The bottom line is that BioNTech is a company operating in the world, if it does not want Fosun to go after it all over the world in court for violation of contract obligation, if it does not want China to confiscate its IP property in China as compensation to Fosun for the violation, it will not deliver a single dose of its vaccine to Taiwan if Fosun is able to.
 
Top