Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Bellum_Romanum

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Its sad he had to make this in format of a sarcastic comedy in hope YouTube wouldnt censor him....

Welcome to 1984 folks...
Nathan Rich presentations of timelines and evidence laid out in this video is just f..ng tastic. It destroys the nutcases insistence of lab leak theory being pushed by the propagandists from the security-intelligence crowd in America. Since "MATH" is not a strong suit for the majority of the Americans it's no wonder they are easily pulled to believe any outlandish claim without checking the MATH in order for the claims being made against China with respect to Covid-19 origin. No wonder the American people have been fooled and literal re..ds by their government precisely for their gullibility and utter contempt for critical thinking and serious study of MATH.
 

zbb

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If the vaccines cant protect you, then why risk being a test subject for unproven technology and death from inflammation, myocardia, free labile iron derived cancers, etc? The death rate for this so called "disease" is already extremely low.
All of the available COVID vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death but much less effective at preventing mild and asymptomatic infections. This actually makes it more important to be vaccinated as you are only protected if you are vaccinated yourself and you cannot rely on others being vaccinated to prevent the virus from spreading to you. We may very well see another wave of the disease among anti-vaxxers in the fall and winter even if most of the population is vaccinated by then.
 

vincent

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Heliox

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Singapore media.

Singapore media is essentially Singapore state media. Which is therefore a soft indication of the political slant of the current cabinet.

To give you an idea of the dumbassery within this cabinet (which had in past generations successfully walked a fine path balancing relations between China and the West)
- The 2 officially endorsed vaccines are both mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna)
- Singapore has not officially approved Sinovac, AZ and J&J but has recently given approval for own-cost, own-cost usage.
- In the last week since the first dose of Sinovac rolled out, the uptake has been very good. Sensing the groundswell demand for non-mRNA vaccine - The SG govt has just announced they have signed a procurement deal with Novovax :rolleyes:

If you wanted to slap China in the face with a cold, wet fish, you couldn't do a better job than by doing this.
iinm, Novovax is US, has yet to achieve regulatory approval and this despite the track record of 1 billion Sinovac doses having been administered globally with hardly any hoohah about side effects (which I believe the west have been digging for). The efficacy may be debatable but to some, it's not about the efficacy, it's about the perceived safety of the vaccine tech.

I look forward to more AFVs being impounded. :D
 

Heliox

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Here's a visualization of COVID infection clusters in Singapore.
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Click on "Vaccinated" on the upper right to see those who were infected while fully vaccinated. Singapore uses the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Not only did many fully vaccinated people in Singapore get infected, some of them also infected others.

In fact, there is an infection chain where one fully vaccinated person infected another fully vaccinated, who then infected another fully vaccinated, who in turn infected another partially vaccinated individual.

Not trying to defend the vaccines used here, just cautioning on how data is intepreted.

A map of cases is not indicative of the efficacy of a vaccine if the numbers exposed and infected are not compared.

eg; the MINDSville cluster was reported as 20+ cases within a facility where almost all residents and workers have been vaccinated ... which was therefore used by the anti-govt, anti-vax, anti-whatever IBs to fan the flames. Until you realise that the facility houses about 300 and that the infection rate of 10% is therefore about in line with an efficacy rate of approx. 90%

Yes, people that have been vaccinated will still contract Covid. Given enough vectors, you will surely get a chain here-and-there of transmission from vaccinated to vaccinated to vaccinated. Just like how a coin flip is 50% probability head/tails but you can still get a whole string of consecutive heads or tail.

Without digging through data showing exposure vs infections, you can't really surmise that the vaccines aren't effective or effective as claimed. Based on the rough figures that approx 40% of SG has been fully vaccinated and comparing the incidences of infection between non- and fully vaccinated, I'd say it's ball park about there, all things being equal.

The sad thing is all of these other MSM are just parroting whatever hype the western MSM comes out with.

Unfortunately so.

I had my suspicions right from the start when MSM was blowing up every little hiccup in the Sino vaccine trials, even to the extent of linking a suicide death in Brazil to a vaccine death :rolleyes:

Nothing to report about western vaccine trials? Or at least not widely reported ...

Suspicions confirmed when the AZ blood clot thing blew up and it was revealed that there were deaths during trials but were deemed to be within acceptable range :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Now we also start to hear things about mRNA vaccines. Sure, I'm sure their trial data wasn't massaged or reportedthrough rose tinted lenses /s

I wouldn't even wipe my arse with print MSM even if the supermarkets ran out of toilet paper cos it will just jam up my toilet with the amount of BS in it.
 
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