Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

antiterror13

Brigadier
The vaccine from CanSino, which has already been approved for use by Chinese government employees overseas and the Chinese military, will soon enter phase 3 trial formerly in Russia, Brazil, Chile, and Saudi Arabia, with 40,000 participants.

I didn't know that vaccine from CanSino has been approved for Chinese government employees overseas, are you sure about that?. I know it has been approved for Chinese military
 
I didn't know that vaccine from CanSino has been approved for Chinese government employees overseas, are you sure about that?. I know it has been approved for Chinese military

It was reportedly approved earlier for Chinese workers returning to work on projects in high risk countries. Not sure about government employees though.
 

Inst

Captain
Excess deaths in most countries HAVE declined and it seems as though coronavirus lethality has dropped to the 1% mark.

Still, coronavirus is a live virus and it can mutate. Hospitals stateside are increasingly overwhelmed; in Florida and in Arizona you have areas where the hospitals are fully occupied and treatment is impossible. Death rates are likely to increase once the health systems become overwhelmed.
 

Austin Powers

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Registered Member
When the common cold appeared on the scene 10,000 years ago with the advent of agricultural revolution more than half of the global population was wiped out very quickly over a few years. All new flus are deadly. The follow a bell shape. As the weak, old, infirm die out, the survivors are immune. When Spanish arrived in the Americas in the 1500s after the Black Death, they carried the virus with them even though they were immune because they are descendants of the survivors. Subsequently more than 90% of the people in the Americas were killed by the new virus until the survivors repopulated the Americas.
 

vesicles

Colonel
When the common cold appeared on the scene 10,000 years ago with the advent of agricultural revolution more than half of the global population was wiped out very quickly over a few years. All new flus are deadly. The follow a bell shape. As the weak, old, infirm die out, the survivors are immune. When Spanish arrived in the Americas in the 1500s after the Black Death, they carried the virus with them even though they were immune because they are descendants of the survivors. Subsequently more than 90% of the people in the Americas were killed by the new virus until the survivors repopulated the Americas.

I’m not sure if you are trying to make the case that the novel Coronavirus is no different than the flu...

My guess is you are trying to argue that, since flu was even more deadly when it first appeared, the Coronavirus is no different than the flu. However, THE biggest difference between the Coronavirus and the flu is that we have lived with the flu for millions of years, while the Coronavirus is new. That is the main reason for the much higher fatality and morbidity that we see now. For any viral contagion, whether we have immunity against it makes the difference between night and day. That’s the whole purpose of the vaccines, giving us a small dose of what the virus is like so that our body doesn’t freak out when the actual virus attacks.

In that sense, your argument is actually why the novel Coronavirus is very very very different than the flu, and why we should be very alert about the Coronavirus. We don’t want to repeat what we experienced when we first saw flu. Nobody wants to be in the 90% wiped out by a virus, and no one wants to volunteer for the greater good!
 

Austin Powers

Junior Member
Registered Member
I’m not sure if you are trying to make the case that the novel Coronavirus is no different than the flu...

My guess is you are trying to argue that, since flu was even more deadly when it first appeared, the Coronavirus is no different than the flu. However, THE biggest difference between the Coronavirus and the flu is that we have lived with the flu for millions of years, while the Coronavirus is new. That is the main reason for the much higher fatality and morbidity that we see now. For any viral contagion, whether we have immunity against it makes the difference between night and day. That’s the whole purpose of the vaccines, giving us a small dose of what the virus is like so that our body doesn’t freak out when the actual virus attacks.

In that sense, your argument is actually why the novel Coronavirus is very very very different than the flu, and why we should be very alert about the Coronavirus. We don’t want to repeat what we experienced when we first saw flu. Nobody wants to be in the 90% wiped out by a virus, and no one wants to volunteer for the greater good!

COVID is a type of flu, belonging to coronavirus family. Common cold appeared with the agricultural revolution roughly 10,000 years ago. At the time, very few people had immunity to it. So the death rate was massive and quick. Today the survivors of common cold have varying degrees to COVID because it's not that different from common cold. As you can see death rate hasn't been that high, only about 1%.
 
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