Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Fedupwithlies]

It’s just a matter of the societal tolerance at this point. In the US, every thing is open, stadiums are packed, etc.

Maybe 1000’s or deaths a day is too much for some societies, but Americans are fine with life as it is.

I mean, yeah. Americans are perfectly fine with their children dying in school shootings en mass, of course they're ok with their old and weak dying as well.
The civilized world has a different opinion.

 

[Overbom]

The people who support the "live with covid" strategy are going to face a nasty surprise if a new more lethal variant comes up.

Letting covid spread uncontrollably is a recipe for a disaster. The West is basically saying "Let covid spread and inshallah"

It could be ok or a disaster. They are basically gambling

 

[supersnoop]

Are you now trying to argue that it should be fine for China to accept the death of it's citizens in the thousands per day to who's benefit? And who's demanding such a retarded plan? Would we be saying this to ourselves if the U.S. and the west weren't experiencing a boatload of cases and a truck full of dead people a day and China is the sole country experiencing the U.S. cases?

Come on bro, you and I know the answer to these questions. Western countries would be celebrating and dancing metaphorically by boasting how "Democracies" are the best in handling the pandemic just as they had stated to tell themselves prior to Europe and America awashed with Covid-19 cases and death. How it assumed erroneously that whatever measures the Chinese government were doing was evil, draconian, and self-defeating. It practically begged the Chinese people to rise up against the See See Pee.

We would be having a daily white house briefing counting or tallying the cases and deaths in China pretending that America actually cares about the Chinese people by issuing a couple of statements that are nothing more than just empty feel good rhetoric with each and every statement ending with "God bless America and may God bless the people of China that are suffering from the callous disregard for human lives by it's own criminal government the See See Pee."

There would be enormous and successful calls for massive economic boycott, not just call for UN/WHO investigation but essentially will call for a change in government a.k.a. regime change. The situation am describing are not far fetch if the level of cases in China were to have been the same with the U.S.

It is very unfortunate for the west led by America that such tragedy didn't occur because that would have been a tragedy of monumental proportions for China and the Chinese people. Thats why I firmly salute all the heroic efforts that all Chinese people made and did to ensure that their country and government remains firmly in their hands and not with the hanjians, the Wang Jingweis, and certainly not with America.

China must do what it's best for her people and China. Who gives a flying bleep what the west demand or think of her when at the end of the day, the west don't want what's best for China anyway.

If it's fine for America and the west to let freedom ring for Covid-19 to reign free let them. China couldn't care less. It's unfortunate, sad, and tragic for the strongest country in the world that is America to basically surrender and let it's people die but it's their call and choice.

Actually what I meant was pretty much what @Fedupwithlies said, much simpler, the Americans are okay with it, it’s not a moral issue for them.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Omnicron is not a flu!

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[LesAdieux]

January 23rd, two year anniversary for the Wuhan lockdown.

didn't expect the covid would last so long and impact so much!

 

[zgx09t]

At the end of the day, China has to protect her younger age group, basically under 19, of 170 millions or so most valuable human assets no matter what the cost as newer versions mostly effect younger ones, given the unknown long term side effects of newer fancier vaccines, especially mRNA. US under 18 population actually decreases by a million in last decade.

 

[Phead128]

There isn no evidence that covid disappears anytime soon. Just gotta accept that lot of people will die yearly basis or continue to pretend it goes away by using lockdowns or vaccines... it's clear that eventually countries handle it same way as they do with flu.

Is China really prepared to continue zero covid for decades?

I think we need to get through the Olympics. If China can get through the Olympics with only minor outbreaks, then it will have a huge propaganda win for it's public health strategy. They will try but it will be very difficult to claim China is hiding numbers when the world journalists can see first hand how stringent the quarantine, daily testing, isolation bubble, and tracking is. After Olympics, if China can figure out a good boosting strategy, local anti-virals, and a propaganda strategy to tell citizens that COVID isn't that bad anymore, then perhaps 1-2 years you can see China slowly becoming back to normal.

 

[SanWenYu]

There isn no evidence that covid disappears anytime soon. Just gotta accept that lot of people will die yearly basis or continue to pretend it goes away by using lockdowns or vaccines... it's clear that eventually countries handle it same way as they do with flu.

Is China really prepared to continue zero covid for decades?

The answer depends on if new covid variants will be truly like flu.

If deadly new variants keep popping up, why would it be unthinkable that China will continue doing the zero covid strategy that has been successful so far?

If the pandemic does last decades, what's wrong for China to keep its people in a safe bubble for as long as it is able to?

Chinese are not stubborn. If the pandemic recedes over time, or if miracle drugs are discovered, life in China will go back to normal as soon as it can.

Meanwhile, China keeps progressing every day without letting thousands die in vain.

 

[Tyler]

I think we need to get through the Olympics. If China can get through the Olympics with only minor outbreaks, then it will have a huge propaganda win for it's public health strategy. They will try but it will be very difficult to claim China is hiding numbers when the world journalists can see first hand how stringent the quarantine, daily testing, isolation bubble, and tracking is. After Olympics, if China can figure out a good boosting strategy, local anti-virals, and a propaganda strategy to tell citizens that COVID isn't that bad anymore, then perhaps 1-2 years you can see China slowly becoming back to normal.

Any local mRNA vaccines news yet?

 

[Strangelove]

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ADDIS ABABA - The Chinese government on Thursday donated an additional 2.2 million doses of Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccines to Ethiopia, giving a boost to the East African nation's vaccination efforts.

China has so far donated around 7 million COVID-19 vaccine doses to Ethiopia, which the Ethiopian Ministry of Health said is playing a crucial role in combating the virus.

Lia Tadesse, Ethiopian Minister of Health, said during the handover ceremony that the latest Chinese donated vaccines are saving lives as part of the Ethiopian government's efforts to vaccinate its people against COVID-19. "Today's donation of 2.2 million Sinopharm vaccines is helping to access the vaccines to our communities and protect from the COVID-19 pandemic," Tadesse said.