Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


Phead128

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Yea, too bad your shit study isn't even peer-reviewed and published yet, whereas my articles are peer-reviewed in NEJM and even published by CDC itself. Your article even admits that it's not peer-reviewed and should NOT be used to guide clinical practice.

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, which has yet to be peer reviewed,
Dr Tracy Høeg at the University of California and colleagues analysed adverse reactions to Covid vaccines in US children aged 12 to 17 during the first six months of 2021. They estimate the rate of myocarditis after two shots of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to be 162.2 cases per million for healthy boys aged 12 to 15 and 94 cases per million for healthy boys aged 16 to 17.
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SteelBird

Major
@SteelBird bro I'm not a doctor but a friend of my who is said that the 3rd dose is not needed especially if its Sinovac or Sinopharm, its not an advert as we know being fully vaccinated you're protected from being critical ill or hospitalized. What is needed is to increase your immune system by exercising , proper diet and intake of vitamins. I hope you're feeling okay, stay safe and god bless.
Neither am I a doctor. Actually, I was hesitated before taking the 3rd jab. I did an antibody test and found that my antibody was full according to the test kit. After thinking twice, I decided to take the jab because it was meant to deal with Delta variant. More than 3,000 Delta variant cases have been found in Cambodia. We're under threat. If we're careless, what happens to Vietnam today may happen to us tomorrow.

By the way, after inoculation of youngsters aged between 12 to 17 nearly 100% finished which allows them to go back to schools, Cambodia is preparing to inoculate children between 6 to 11 starting tomorrow.

The darker the T line is, the more antibody counts
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vincent

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Yea, too bad your shit study isn't even peer-reviewed and published yet, whereas my articles are peer-reviewed in NEJM and even published by CDC itself. Your article even admits that it's not peer-reviewed and should NOT be used to guide clinical practice.

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Whatever makes you happy. Feel free to give your young sons the mRNA vaccines
 

Phead128

Senior Member
Whatever makes you happy. Feel free to give your young sons the mRNA vaccines
As someone who visited the emergency room after my Pfizer 2nd shot for chest pain (suspected myocarditis/pericarditis, but ultimately negative troponin test), I would gladly do it again and get a third booster shot for Delta. Thanks for your concern though. Better a 0.026% chance of myocarditis with the vaccine than a 0.17% chance of myocarditis without the vaccine and with COVID infection. The benefits outweight the risks and the peer-reviewed evidence reflects that.
 
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Phead128

Senior Member
@vincent why risk 0.17% chance of myocarditis without vaccination + COVID infection? The 0.026% chance of myocarditis with mRNA vaccine is almost 16X lower risk of myocarditis. Does math not compute in your anti-vaxxers brain?
 

ansy1968

Major
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Neither am I a doctor. Actually, I was hesitated before taking the 3rd jab. I did an antibody test and found that my antibody was full according to the test kit. After thinking twice, I decided to take the jab because it was meant to deal with Delta variant. More than 3,000 Delta variant cases have been found in Cambodia. We're under threat. If we're careless, what happens to Vietnam today may happen to us tomorrow.

By the way, after inoculation of youngsters aged between 12 to 17 nearly 100% finished which allows them to go back to schools, Cambodia is preparing to inoculate children between 6 to 11 starting tomorrow.

The darker the T line is, the more antibody counts
TW6DdCI.jpg
@SteelBird bro the important thing is that you're okay, we're on a semi lockdown here in the metropolis, the infection rate keep on rising, half measure is always a recipe for disaster, in dealing with a pandemic you had to go all out, understanding the economic implication then the only solution is to let everybody vaccinated and that's the problem the lack of vaccine. At least your country had the luxury of a 3rd dose, my country majority of the people are still waiting for their first dose.
 

vincent

Senior Member
@vincent why risk 0.17% chance of myocarditis without vaccination + COVID infection? The 0.026% chance of myocarditis with mRNA vaccine is almost 16X lower risk of myocarditis. Does math not compute in your anti-vaxxers brain?
Me an anti-vaxxer? Presumptuous aren’t ya? My boys are fully vaccinated as recommend by the government. I will not let my boys take an emergency vaccine based on a brand new tech that only took half a year to develop and test. The quickest vaccine developed in history was the MMR vaccine and it took four years. It was an attenuated (weakened) live virus vaccine, a proven tech.
 

solarz

Brigadier
@vincent why risk 0.17% chance of myocarditis without vaccination + COVID infection? The 0.026% chance of myocarditis with mRNA vaccine is almost 16X lower risk of myocarditis. Does math not compute in your anti-vaxxers brain?

You're pretty much the only one selling pfizer/moderna vaccines here. Everyone else is treating those vaccines like the health risks they are.

Stop trying to convince people that covid risks are higher. It's only higher if you actually get covid. If you take the proper precautions and avoid risky situations, you're not going to get covid at all.
 

SteelBird

Major
@SteelBird bro the important thing is that you're okay, we're on a semi lockdown here in the metropolis, the infection rate keep on rising, half measure is always a recipe for disaster, in dealing with a pandemic you had to go all out, understanding the economic implication then the only solution is to let everybody vaccinated and that's the problem the lack of vaccine. At least your country had the luxury of a 3rd dose, my country majority of the people are still waiting for their first dose.
One of the reasons Cambodian people could enjoy 3rd doses is as our Prime Minister said "take China as strategic dependence for vaccine supply". Our only problem is if we have enough money to buy the vaccines we want. Since The Philippines also accept Chinese vaccines, I don't understand how you can't buy enough vaccines for your people, unless the people of the Philippines don't want Chinese vaccines (similar case in Vietnam). In the handling of the pandemic, I praise our government for it always move in advance of the situation; from vaccination to prompt lockdown and currently, the 3rd dose. However, this doesn't mean that we will always be safe. As I've said before; we are under Delta threat as more and more cases being detected everyday.
 

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