Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


Phead128

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Not practical. Covid boosters have far severe side effects compared to flu shots. Not many people are willing to take a covid booster unless vaccine passport explicitly requires it in order to renew passport after passport expiration.

You can see in Novavax's report their vax has very severe side effects compared to flu shot. And most other vax such as mRNA have far stronger side effects than even Novavax's vax.

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The vulnerable and at-risk population (i.e., elderly, immunocompromised, comorbid obese) will still take the Covid booster even with higher side effects than flu shot because the actual COVID disease infection has far more severe symptoms than the vaccine itself. For others like younger people, they don't really take flu shots regularly anyways, so you are right the younger folks likely won't get the booster for COVID unless it is mandated.

In the US schools, it's mandatory to get vaccinated against a variety of disease and get boosters at regular intervals and show an immunization certificate. For the general public, I don't think there is any check for boosters outside of school.
 
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Phead128

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Only those 70+ should be given boosters. Boosters do more harm than good for younger people.

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COVID disease is more harmful than booster shots.

COVID causes 16X higher myocarditis and pericarditis than vaccines itself.

You always weight the risks compared to the disease itself, never in isolation.

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Those are for very rare diseases like polio, measles, pertussis. Covid is a very common disease. More common than flu and second most common after rhinovirus infection. Heck, there isn't even flu vaccination mandate for school children and flu is far rarer than covid.

They are rare diseases because .... Wait for it.... Mandated vaccination. It was highly prevalent before mass vaccination.
 

Phead128

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Vaccination is associated with +324% higher risk of myocarditis compared to controls, while COVID disease is associated with +1,828% higher risk of myocarditis. (
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) What this means in reality:
  • 0.009% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated without COVID. (
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  • 0.03% risk of myocarditis among vaccinated without COVID (324% higher risk)
  • 0.17% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated infected with COVID. (1,828% higher risk)
That's almost 14X difference between unvaccinated w/COVID and vaccinated w/o COVID. So the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks.

Vaccination was most strongly associated with an elevated risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 3.24)...... SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantially increased risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 18.28)......

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So it is highly misleading and disingenuous to push the narrative that vaccines does more harm than good, @supersupersoldier If you continue to push this narrative, you will be reported for spreading misinformation.
 
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vincent

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Vaccination is associated with +324% higher risk of myocarditis compared to controls, while COVID disease is associated with +1,828% higher risk of myocarditis. (
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) What this means in reality:
  • 0.009% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated without COVID. (
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    )
  • 0.03% risk of myocarditis among vaccinated without COVID (324% higher risk)
  • 0.17% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated infected with COVID. (1,828% higher risk)
That's almost 14X difference between unvaccinated w/COVID and vaccinated w/o COVID. So the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks.



So it is highly misleading and disingenuous to push the narrative that vaccines does more harm than good, @supersupersoldier If you continue to push this narrative, you will be reported for spreading misinformation.
Stop spreading misinformation yourself
  • 0.17% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated infected with COVID. (1,828% higher risk)
What is the demographic? The study involves 12-15 years boys
 

Strangelove

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Taiwan is just this really annoying joke. Sometimes they go too far with this taiwan can help meme. Taiwan to save the whole world lol

Taiwan can help! by staying the fuck away from everyone, just stay on the fucking island. The current breakout in Fujian Province is suspected to be caused by Wanwanese going to Xiamen for vaccine shots. While the infected are screened out, if they sneeze, cough or jerk off upon arrival but before the screening, there's still the risk of spreading.
 

ansy1968

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By the way, I've taken the 3rd shot of AZ. My 1st and 2nd shots were Sinovac. A little bit fever suppressed by 1 dose of 1000mg of Doliprane (Paracetamol) and a little pain at injection site.
@SteelBird bro I'm not a doctor but a friend of my who is said that the 3rd dose is not needed especially if its Sinovac or Sinopharm, its not an advert as we know being fully vaccinated you're protected from being critical ill or hospitalized. What is needed is to increase your immune system by exercising , proper diet and intake of vitamins. I hope you're feeling okay, stay safe and god bless.
 

Phead128

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Stop spreading misinformation yourself
  • 0.17% risk of myocarditis among unvaccinated infected with COVID. (1,828% higher risk)
What is the demographic? The study involves 12-15 years boys

I'm not sure which post you are replying to, but the study that I cited is for >16 years and older in Israel (
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ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA
Eligibility criteria included an age of 16 years or older, continuous membership in the health care organization for a full year, no previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, and no contact with the health care system in the previous 7 days (the latter criterion was included as an indicator of a health event not related to subsequent vaccination that could reduce the probability of receiving the vaccine).

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The other source is from CDC MMR which cites ALL age groups, from <16 years old all the way up to >75 years old.

The risk for myocarditis was defined as the percentage of patients with myocarditis and was calculated among patients with and without COVID-19, overall and by sex (male or female) and age group (<16, 16–24, 25–39, 40–49, 50–64, 65–74, and ≥75 years).

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So I'm not sure what post you are replying to. Where the heck did you get 12-15 years old from?
 

vincent

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I'm not sure which post you are replying to, but the study that I cited is for >16 years and older in Israel (
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The other source is from CDC MMR which cites ALL age groups, from <16 years old all the way up to >75 years old.
So I'm not sure what post you are replying to. Where the heck did you get 12-15 years old from?
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