Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Gatekeeper

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My friends in France also mentioned this to me. Have they vaccinated majority of their population with two doses?

Yes, in the U.K. we are nearly all vaccinated.

Israel with higher vaccination rate has said that many people that already vaccinated contracted the virus especially those vaccinated in Jan and Feb which implied vaccines effectiveness wane after 6 months.

I don't think the vaccines were meant to stop the spreading. It reduces the chance. But not stop it. The main point of tge vaccines is to reduce hospital treatments as your own body's defences can cope tie to one has been vaccinated.
 

DarkStar

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Just ignore him, that mad man!

At the mean time, 3 containers of frozen buffalo meat imported from India was found contaminated with SARS-CoV-2 in Cambodia.
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I'm just gonna say that i would not trust anything coming from India; chances are faecal matter or worse things have been found on products hailing from the subcontinent.

Also, with the cases in Nanjing, were the infected fully vaccinated or only partially vaccinated?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Have any of you wondered why the west, and America in particular have been so pissed about Chinese literally saving the world with vaccines, and been so obsessed with smearing Chinese vaccines that could stop a global pandemic?

Well I think this is a good example of what they were actually planning, and how China easily saw through their ploy and beat them.

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Had China behaved like the west, which is what western strategist would have assumed by default, and hogged its own vaccines until it has vaccinated everyone domestically before exporting to other more needy countries, the above headline would no doubt have been that the UK would allow only those fully vaccinated with western vaccines to have quarantine exemptions, closely followed by the US and EU making similar pledges establishing their own little mutually recognised travel bubbles and effectively imposing soft isolation on China.

Because of the success of Chinese efforts to vaccinate the world, that devious plan is stillborn as even within the EU, you have countries using Chinese vaccines, so the EU cannot accept any such travel bubble that will only recognise people vaccinated with western vaccines since that will instantly get vetoed by their member states using Chinese vaccines. The British Indian-made AZ vaccine disqualification only works because of Brexit and the UK having lost its veto on EU decisions.

Without the EU, such a plan is stillborn, as if the US pressed ahead, it will only end up effectively imposing said soft isolation on itself.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
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Have any of you wondered why the west, and America in particular have been so pissed about Chinese literally saving the world with vaccines, and been so obsessed with smearing Chinese vaccines that could stop a global pandemic?

Well I think this is a good example of what they were actually planning, and how China easily saw through their ploy and beat them.

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Had China behaved like the west, which is what western strategist would have assumed by default, and hogged its own vaccines until it has vaccinated everyone domestically before exporting to other more needy countries, the above headline would no doubt have been that the UK would allow only those fully vaccinated with western vaccines to have quarantine exemptions, closely followed by the US and EU making similar pledges establishing their own little mutually recognised travel bubbles and effectively imposing soft isolation on China.

Because of the success of Chinese efforts to vaccinate the world, that devious plan is stillborn as even within the EU, you have countries using Chinese vaccines, so the EU cannot accept any such travel bubble that will only recognise people vaccinated with western vaccines since that will instantly get vetoed by their member states using Chinese vaccines. The British Indian-made AZ vaccine disqualification only works because of Brexit and the UK having lost its veto on EU decisions.

Without the EU, such a plan is stillborn, as if the US pressed ahead, it will only end up effectively imposing said soft isolation on itself.

Well it is their lost. The U.K. and the EU tourist and aviation industry is literally dying on its knees. They need Chinese tourists badly.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Well it is their lost. The U.K. and the EU tourist and aviation industry is literally dying on its knees. They need Chinese tourists badly.
The US gives zero Fucks about the interests and needs of the UK or EU. And over the decades they have inserted enough plants and actively promoted enough useful idiots to sway decisions their way and have the UK and EU literally shoot themselves in the foot to advance America’s interest in fucking with China any which way it could.
 

KYli

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Chile is doing better and better each day and the MSM can't dismiss this fact which proves Sinovac works well against Gamma, Alpha variants.
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Singapore government is just funny. It allows first Sinovac and now Sinopharm for limited use but won't give an emergency approval to include both vaccines in the national program.
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plawolf

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Chile is doing better and better each day and the MSM can't dismiss this fact which proves Sinovac works well against Gamma, Alpha variants.
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Singapore government is just funny. It allows first Sinovac and now Sinopharm for limited use but won't give an emergency approval to include both vaccines in the national program.
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It’s things like this that makes me seriously think there are a lot of American shenanigans behind closed doors.

I would absolutely not be surprised if American officials made it clear to Singapore behind closed doors that America would not recognise Singapore’s vaccination programme for travel quarantine exemptions if Chinese or Russian vaccines were used in said programme.
 
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