Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


Dolcevita

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These results does not aligned with reports coming out of Israel as of April below.

"Of over five million people who received the vaccine in Israel, around 62 cases of myocarditis were recorded in days after the vaccination, the report said. Furthermore, 56 of these cases arose on administering the second shot and most of the affected were men under 30."

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So Israel had 62 cases out of 5 million vaccinated. (April 2021)
US CDC is saying that there are 226 cases out of 130 million vaccinated ( June 2021)

Using statistically proportional estimates, there should be about 1600 cases instead of 226 in the US.
Note also the US has a younger population which should cause an increase of cases.

What gives and how reliable is the CDC data?
 

Tam

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These results does not aligned with reports coming out of Israel as of April below.

"Of over five million people who received the vaccine in Israel, around 62 cases of myocarditis were recorded in days after the vaccination, the report said. Furthermore, 56 of these cases arose on administering the second shot and most of the affected were men under 30."

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So Israel had 62 cases out of 5 million vaccinated. (April 2021)
US CDC is saying that there are 226 cases out of 130 million vaccinated ( June 2021)

Using statistically proportional estimates, there should be about 1600 cases instead of 226 in the US.
Note also the US has a younger population which should cause an increase of cases.

What gives and how reliable is the CDC data?

Probably unreliable. Myocarditis is a common disease. Its not only caused by viral infections, like Covid, but also by other viral infections including the common cold and flu. Its also caused by bacterial and fungal infections. Allergy and exposure to toxins.

Because it being common, there might be more cases of myocarditis that isn't being reported.

However, the direct cause of a case cannot be certain if its the vaccine, or some other cause.

There was a report that the first person who was vaccinated in Singapore, I believe that should be Pfizer, died of heart issues. Could it be myocarditis? Could it be something else? Authorities and the media might be inclined to smooth over it, to not scare the population into not taking the vaccine.
 

SteelBird

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@SteelBird bro got my 2nd shot and compare to the first, I'm feeling fine, no pain and not sleepy at all. Is that mean my antibodies is high? what I'm hearing is that most incident of side effect occur after taking the second doses?
Congratulation!

I'm not sure about it. I don't know if it is possible to measure the antibody. To me, after taking second dose, I didn't have any strange feeling at all. Everything is normal to me. I asked the people around me, only some women had side effect like sleepy and toothache (the woman had tooth problem before taking the second dose. After taking the vaccine, she felt painful at her tooth, after one day it disappeared). All men who I know taking two doses of both Sinopharm and Sinovac have no side effect.
 

Sardaukar20

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The core of the reason the lab leak theory is gaining so much traction and popularity in the west is because of their underlying belief in the racial supremacy of the white race (right wingers) and propaganda brainwashing in how superior their democratic government and society (left wingers) is supposed supposed to be.

They just cannot accept the reality that China has outperformed them so thoroughly and comprehensively, so anything that can explain away this massive gulf between their core belief and understanding in the ‘natural order of the world’ and reality is seized upon like a drowning man to a life jacket.

However, I have long held the belief that COVID might indeed have been an engineered bioweapon, only it is the US that developed and unleashed it.

That is nowhere near as far fetched as it might seem, because the US has a long and consistent history of biological warfare that dates back to even before the founding of the US. Smallpox blankets might have killed more Native Americans than bullets, and was instrumental in the creation of the USA as we know it today.

The CIA deployed biological weapons to wipe out Cuba’s pig population; and China itself was hit by a mystery swine pandemic that was wiping out its domestic pig population with unusual effectiveness just as the trade war with America kicked off.

Is it really such a huge leap to go from biological weapons aimed at livestock to low lethality biological weapons against humans?

It’s interesting that at the start of the pandemic, there was a lot of noise about how COVID was much more infectious to people of Chinese ancestry than Caucasian, and it was remarkable how limited the strain causing havoc in Wuhan was spreading in the west despite zero boarder controls and western governments actively breaking quarantine to fly their own citizens home and advising others in China to make their own way back.

Covid only really took off in white western nations due to a new strain developing in Italy. The Wuhan strain basically didn’t take hold in any way shape or form in the west, and covid would have been limited to China had the Italian strain not developed.

That most certainly stank of a bioweapon tailored to wreck China’s economy while leaving the white west untouched, and it was only a freak mutation out in the wild that caused it to blowback so spectacularly on the west.
Indeed. I too am on the position that Covid-19 is a US-made bioweapon unleashed on China by the USA. Though I don't mind being proven wrong later by the real scientists. But I'm certain that the US's Wuhan lab theory is wrong.

Perhaps Covid-19 virus was a bioweapon sitting in Fort Detrick. Then either by accident or deliberately, it leaked in Maryland. Hence the strange outbreak of Vaping illness, and the Greenspring retirement community outbreak. Notice that the Western media never once brought up these suspicious cases. It stinks of a true cover-up. Those cases probably led to the quiet spreading of Covid-19 in the US until 2020.

Then the US unleashed the virus on China. The timing was absolutely perfect. There was an ongoing trade war. There is a color revolution in HK. The HK, Xinjiang, and Tibet Freedom Acts were being enacted. Donald Trump has an election to win in 2020. Most importantly, its the Spring Festival in China and Wuhan is a major travelling hub for Eastern China, connected to the biggest cities around China. If you want to unleash a bioweapon on China, there is just no better place and timing to do it.

Very early in the pandemic, Trump was praising Xi Jinping for his handling of Covid-19 (no 'China Virus' then). While he blocked Chinese nationals from coming into the US, setting a very early example. Trump never planned for the virus coming to the US. But like every classic bioweapon, it did just that. When there were cases popping up in the US he tried to play it down. Saying that it'll 'magically disappear'. He is telling the truth. He intends for the virus to 'magically disappear' in the US. He has publicly said many times that he doesn't want more testing of the virus so that case numbers won't go up. He even dared said that it'll just reach around 15, and then it'll just go down. Trump and his Republican gang intended to cover-up the Covid-19 outbreak in the US and pretend like its only happening in China and Europe. But then the US medical community fought back and did everything against what Trump was trying to do. The Left who hates Trump, saw an opportunity to oust him, and they jumped on it. Then everything is history.

The US is no stranger to clandestine chemical and biological weapons use. It is an open secret. Biowarfare during the Korean War. BZ gas testing on subjects at Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland. The 1981 Dengue outbreak in Cuba. Plus the US likes to do its projection of evil onto its biggest adversaries: China, Russia, and Iran. Add to that, the utter silence of the suspicious early cases of Covid-19 in the US. It is not so unthinkable that the US is the culprit for the Covid-19 pandemic. The more the US pushes this Wuhan-lab theory, the more convinced I am that it is actually them who did it.
 
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paullee

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Indeed. I too am on the position that Covid-19 is a US-made bioweapon unleashed on China by the USA. Though I don't mind being proven wrong later by the real scientists. But I'm certain that the US's Wuhan lab theory is wrong.

Perhaps Covid-19 virus was a bioweapon sitting in Fort Detrick. Then either by accident or deliberately, it leaked in Maryland. Hence the strange outbreak of Vaping illness, and the Greenspring retirement community outbreak. Notice that the Western media never once brought up these suspicious cases. It stinks of a true cover-up. Those cases probably led to the quiet spreading of Covid-19 in the US until 2020.

Then the US unleashed the virus on China. The timing was absolutely perfect. There was an ongoing trade war. There is a color revolution in HK. The HK, Xinjiang, and Tibet Freedom Acts were being enacted. Donald Trump has an election to win in 2020. Most importantly, its the Spring Festival in China and Wuhan is a major travelling hub for Eastern China, connected to the biggest cities around China. If you want to unleash a bioweapon on China, there is just no better place and timing to do it.

Very early in the pandemic, Trump was praising Xi Jinping for his handling of Covid-19 (no 'China Virus' then). While he blocked Chinese nationals from coming into the US, setting a very early example. Trump never planned for the virus coming to the US. But like every classic bioweapon, it did just that. When there were cases popping up in the US he tried to play it down. Saying that it'll 'magically disappear'. He is telling the truth. He intends for the virus to 'magically disappear' in the US. He has publicly said many times that he doesn't want more testing of the virus so that case numbers won't go up. He even dared said that it'll just reach around 15, and then it'll just go down. Trump and his Republican gang intended to cover-up the Covid-19 outbreak in the US and pretend like its only happening in China and Europe. But then the US medical community fought back and did everything against what Trump was trying to do. The Left who hates Trump, saw an opportunity to oust him, and they jumped on it. Then everything is history.

The US is no stranger to clandestine chemical and biological weapons use. It is an open secret. Biowarfare during the Korean War. BZ gas testing on subjects at Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland. The 1981 Dengue outbreak in Cuba. Plus the US likes to do its projection of evil onto its biggest adversaries: China, Russia, and Iran. Add to that, the utter silence of the suspicious early cases of Covid-19 in the US. It is not so unthinkable that the US is the culprit for the Covid-19 pandemic. The more the US pushes this Wuhan-lab theory, the more convinced I am that it is actually them who did it.
Right on... Like you I hope to be proven wrong as well, but for now my 2 cents is you are on the money but it really wasnt up to Trump... US presidents are largely puppet figures and PR frontmen, like Putin said its the sharply dressed men in black suits that tell them how its going to be etc....

Remember Nancy Pelosi was in drunken stupor preaching to the world the dangers of Huawei 5G while Trump was still POTUS. Pelosi dont know how to turn on a computer. They all take orders and do what they are told... Looking back, many people naively thought Biden would unban Huawei and or release Chinese Princess... No Biden's handlers told him to triple down instead....

The other point of speculation is this wasnt at all an accidental "leak".... that part was for pure plausible denialability purposes... no matter what, those that executed this operation wanted to make sure this never in the historybooks came back to bite US in the sense of the world blaming America for an intentional biovirus release in Wuhan that subsequently caused a scorthed earth of entire global planet via bioweapon....

Not only was the timing and location devious as you said, but the follow up with international smearing and framing of China... it fits America's longstanding MO perfectly to a tee, especially their habit of 'projection'

Now they want to sue China, then get vassals onboard to blame China, make China pay... if enough countries go along with this and all default on debt owed to China it lets America get away with impunity in terms of canceling Tbill held by China whilsts avoiding the consequences of collapse of USD (had the covid pretext never happened)

This is America's great harvesting, covid shutdown giving them excuse to print QE infinity .... the week after signing Trade Deal Phase I, Wuhan explodes with Covid.... basically US realized China wasnt going to kowtow to Plaza Accord 2.0 so had plan B in the works lined up

Dont forget the repo issue was already showing cracks in the system September 2019.... the timing man if all these circumstantial things were presented to jury in criminal case this would already be beyond a reasonal doubt... people have been convicted and excuted on far less evidence
 
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This is a paper written by Ralph S. Baric, one of Detrick Lab researchers . This guy characterized covid virus back in 2006. This guy is implicated with this highly correlated twitter claim inside this
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Biological warfare (BW) agents are microorganisms or toxins that are intended to kill,
injure or incapacitate the enemy, elicit fear and devastate national economies. Because
small amounts of microorganisms might cause high numbers of casualties, they are
classified as weapons of mass destruction. A number of naturally occurring viruses have
potential uses as BW agents, although the availability of these agents is oftentimes
limited. This report discusses the potential use of recombinant and synthetic DNAs to
resurrect recombinant BW viruses de novo and the potential for altering the pathogenic
properties of viruses for nefarious purposes. Examples of weaponized viruses include
Variola major (Smallpox), Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus (VEE), and the
filoviruses Marburg and Ebola viruses, with the classic example being the use of
smallpox virus-contaminated blankets against indigenous North American Indian
populations (76).

Traditionally, biological warfare concerns have focused on a relatively limited, select group of naturally occurring pathogens viewed as having a set of desirable characteristics: 1) highly pathogenic, 2) readily available, 3) easily produced, 4) weaponizable, 5) stable, 6) infectious at a low dose, 7) easily transmissible, and 8) inspiring of fear (32)

With the advent of synthetic biology, recombinant DNA technology, reverse genetic approaches
(i.e. the development of molecular clones of infectious genomes) and the identification of
virulence alleles, not only are new avenues available for obtaining these pathogens, but
more ominously, tools exist for simultaneously modifying the genomes for increased
virulence, immunogenicity, transmissibility, host range and pathogenesis (22, 59).
Moreover, these approaches can be used to molecularly resurrect extinct human and
animal pathogens, like the 1918 human influenza virus (81)


This paper builds upon earlier work and seeks to review the methodologies in isolating recombinant viruses in vitro and the application of these methods globally to biological warfare and biodefense


If notoriety, fear and directing foreign government policies are principle objectives, then the release and subsequent discovery of a synthetically derived virus bioweapon will certainly garner tremendous media coverage, inspire fear and terrorize human populations and direct severe pressure on government officials to respond in predicted ways.

Another approach might be to “humanize” zoonotic viruses by inserting mutations into virus attachment proteins or constructing chimeric proteins that regulate virus species specificity (viral attachment proteins bind receptors, mediating virus docking and entry into cells).



He seems to know how covid virus works.
 

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