Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

SimaQian

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Actually the key question is why did Gilead Sciences came up so fast with
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Drugs usually takes years to develop, test and produce. Even if it was developed already before,
why it take so fast for them to conclude that it can be used against covid.

The arguments and circumstances are well connected in this alleged former Detrick Laboratory employee.

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emblem21

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Why would China engineer this virus as charged? Look at the headache it's caused for China that it's suspected of starting in China first. Yeah it's caused damage around the world but nothing where China can take and gives it decisive advantage. The West isn't down and out. It's only focuses anger at China. I'm not saying it is but if it was engineered it's exactly doing the things in the world that some country working against China would want to see happen. Look at how Trump and personal allies when they caught COVID-19 got this mysterious treatment that seem to have worked but was said costs a lot that regular people couldn't afford. Look at how some didn't care how many people died even their own citizens. The reason why you don't do anything is because you would want to see max damage as possible. And at first it was believed the developed world would be able to handle this virus better meaning the developing world would not. Blaming it on China would get the world to turn against China which is what the notorious suspects were trying to do in general before COVID-19 showed up.
It is their playbook, create virus and blame China for it so they can try and basically play God and win in the sense that they can force China to suffer yet another 100 years of humiliation all the while sucking up the wealth from other nations while lecturing the world on human rights while basically behaving like the devil.
But the again, it seems the almighty has other plans and has decided to screw the USA economy to the point where thousand of businesses have shut down destroying millions of jobs, being the most affected by the pandemic (a fate they tried to force on China only for them to be hoisted by their own petard) and basically exposed as a nation that is in accelerated free fall.
Yet they still refuse to see reason and they are still trying to push the world against China for basically not bending over like they think they should (yeah, they are that arrogant). If God was supposed to bless America like the people of the USA always seem to boast about non stop, then they certainly would be in the situation to begin with and hence in the coming future, it is becoming more and more likely that China together with Russia will have no choice but to put down the US empire for good. Although if an natural disaster was to take place first however, then I guess the lord has spoken. I mean all the attempts by the USA to pry Russia from China is never going to succeed and basically nothing this year has actually gone right for the USA, absolutely none since all they basically have is fake money and no plan in regards to fixing infrastructure since most of the people that could have done something to help are basically retired or dead or simply replaced by idiots who are into woke culture.
The USA has the advantage in regards to projecting an image but one day when the truth comes out and reveals the real truth of the virus being manufactured in fort Derrick, then the USA is completely fucked and how do I know this, the fact that the Fauci has begun to flip flop like no tomorrow and the fact that this bloody virus has been detected early then Wuhan (in Italy to be specific) and the media is trying to bury the information because they are still pointing at China regardless. So really what does the USA have to hide as of now and why are they being so obstructive when they of all people should be opening the USA for inspection for all those 10 of thousands of flu deaths in the years prior and yet somehow nothing is reported on the flu deaths when the covid broke out in the USA. The truth will come out and I don’t think the USA can dodge the bullet this time.
 
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Sardaukar20

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Why would China engineer this virus as charged? Look at the headache it's caused for China that it's suspected of starting in China first. Yeah it's caused damage around the world but nothing where China can take and gives it decisive advantage. The West isn't down and out. It's only focuses anger at China. I'm not saying it is but if it was engineered it's exactly doing the things in the world that some country working against China would want to see happen. Look at how Trump and personal allies when they caught COVID-19 got this mysterious treatment that seem to have worked but was said costs a lot that regular people couldn't afford. Look at how some didn't care how many people died even their own citizens. The reason why you don't do anything is because you would want to see max damage as possible. And at first it was believed the developed world would be able to handle this virus better meaning the developing world would not. Blaming it on China would get the world to turn against China which is what the notorious suspects were trying to do in general before COVID-19 showed up.
That's exactly the point. If China really did bioengineered the virus for some nefarious purpose:

1) Why bother to alert the WHO and CDCs around the world? Then everyone would know that a new epidemic has emerged in China.

2) Why even bother to share the virus genome sequence? It gives people the opportunity to scrutinize the genetics of the virus. Not something to do if you're is trying to cover up a self-engineered bioweopon on the loose on your on soil.

3) Why even show the drama unfolding in Wuhan to the world? Especially if China was really trying to cover up. Wanna know how a cover up looks like? When the Soviets had the Chernobyl disaster, they didn't officially acknowledged it to the world until the radiation is detected in a nuclear plant in Sweden.

4) Why publish the infection and death tally from Covid-19? During the first two months of 2020, China had the highest amounts of reported infections and deaths in the world by far. The second biggest outbreak at that time was the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Covid-19 had far exceeded the scale of SARS in China. Again, if this was a cover up. China is doing an unimaginably terrible job.

There are too many holes in the logic of the anti-China nut jobs trying to push the Wuhan lab narrative. If China really did suffered a leak of a bioengineered virus of its own making. The best course of action is to just keep quiet about it. Solve the problem at home and let another country discover the new virus. It emerged in South Korea and Japan next. So why not let them discover it and then let everyone else call it the 'Seoul Virus', or 'JSARS'? Isn't that so much easier? There would be so much less PR disaster to suffer from. After all viruses, unlike radiation is far harder to trace.

China is perhaps a victim of its own success. When the Wuhan outbreak was raging. I felt a genuine sense of sincerity of fighting a disaster. Very similar to what I've seen during the Wenchuan earthquake of 2008. China had never expected the developed world to suffer on the scale like it had. Much less, see them so grossly underperform. In 2019, it was pretty much common sense that the first world countries should manage epidemics better than China.

Furthermore China even felt a sense of responsibility for the virus. Having suspected it came from wildlife markets, China clamped down hard on the wildlife trade. It even invited WHO scientists to trace the virus through its own wildlife trade. Even allow them into the labs in Wuhan! This is not the behaviour of a country with something to hide.

In this Covid-19 global crisis, there are many things to be upset about. China is near, or at the bottom of that list.

Next, we shall observe the behaviour of the US when the WHO calls to investigate cases on its soil. I'm almost certain the US would not cooperate the same way that China had. Then we can all see, who is truly hiding something.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Why would China engineer this virus as charged? Look at the headache it's caused for China that it's suspected of starting in China first. Yeah it's caused damage around the world but nothing where China can take and gives it decisive advantage. The West isn't down and out. It's only focuses anger at China. I'm not saying it is but if it was engineered it's exactly doing the things in the world that some country working against China would want to see happen. Look at how Trump and personal allies when they caught COVID-19 got this mysterious treatment that seem to have worked but was said costs a lot that regular people couldn't afford. Look at how some didn't care how many people died even their own citizens. The reason why you don't do anything is because you would want to see max damage as possible. And at first it was believed the developed world would be able to handle this virus better meaning the developing world would not. Blaming it on China would get the world to turn against China which is what the notorious suspects were trying to do in general before COVID-19 showed up.
Logic and even simple basic common sense do not apply to these mother f..ng western countries along with it's sheeps when it comes to China or anything related to the country. Guilt and the presumption of culpability are always the first things to be leveled against China due to differing governing philosophies from one simple fact that is "Communism." The People’s Republic of China under the leadership and governance of the C.P.C. will never be seen and must never be legitimize in the eyes of these democracy nutjobs. For the west lead by the U.S. democratization is what Christianitization - during colonization - used to be, a form, a method of control against countries these same western powers utilized with great zeal and unmistakable cruelty that caused civilizational destruction of languages and cultures including the death of millions.

The west despite what it purports to champion about human rights and freedom are nothing but smoke and mirrors about it's supremacist views and rigid ideological bent on wanting to impose it's views and cultural norms accross the world spectrum irrespective of countries histories and cultural norms. Which flies in the face of their black propaganda against China when it comes to the absurd accusation of "genocide" cultural "genocide" and all the alphabets of genocides these western supremacists love to use against China.
 

hashtagpls

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Logic and even simple basic common sense do not apply to these mother f..ng western countries along with it's sheeps when it comes to China or anything related to the country. Guilt and the presumption of culpability are always the first things to be leveled against China due to differing governing philosophies from one simple fact that is "Communism." The People’s Republic of China under the leadership and governance of the C.P.C. will never be seen and must never be legitimize in the eyes of these democracy nutjobs. For the west lead by the U.S. democratization is what Christianitization - during colonization - used to be, a form, a method of control against countries these same western powers utilized with great zeal and unmistakable cruelty that caused civilizational destruction of languages and cultures including the death of millions.

The west despite what it purports to champion about human rights and freedom are nothing but smoke and mirrors about it's supremacist views and rigid ideological bent on wanting to impose it's views and cultural norms accross the world spectrum irrespective of countries histories and cultural norms. Which flies in the face of their black propaganda against China when it comes to the absurd accusation of "genocide" cultural "genocide" and all the alphabets of genocides these western supremacists love to use against China.
It is as i have maintained before: strangely, all of these Libertarian Freedom loving americans who don't need nor trust the Government, automatically become good little boy bitches when it comes to believing the same Government about everything about China.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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CGTN street interviews Taiwanese regarding their vaccine dilemma. Although I expected that CGTN will be very biased in their reporting, this video is rather neutral, with little political innuendos that we are used to seeing elsewhere. Actually, I am wondering how did CGTN reporters get their press credentials from Taipei considering the bellicosity of the DPP.

I was watching Chinese news and I was absolutely incensed at the Taiwanese government shirking responsibility. Now Taiwan has exceeded the global average in deaths and I think soon infections.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Why would China engineer this virus as charged? Look at the headache it's caused for China that it's suspected of starting in China first. Yeah it's caused damage around the world but nothing where China can take and gives it decisive advantage. The West isn't down and out. It's only focuses anger at China. I'm not saying it is but if it was engineered it's exactly doing the things in the world that some country working against China would want to see happen. Look at how Trump and personal allies when they caught COVID-19 got this mysterious treatment that seem to have worked but was said costs a lot that regular people couldn't afford. Look at how some didn't care how many people died even their own citizens. The reason why you don't do anything is because you would want to see max damage as possible. And at first it was believed the developed world would be able to handle this virus better meaning the developing world would not. Blaming it on China would get the world to turn against China which is what the notorious suspects were trying to do in general before COVID-19 showed up.

The core of the reason the lab leak theory is gaining so much traction and popularity in the west is because of their underlying belief in the racial supremacy of the white race (right wingers) and propaganda brainwashing in how superior their democratic government and society (left wingers) is supposed supposed to be.

They just cannot accept the reality that China has outperformed them so thoroughly and comprehensively, so anything that can explain away this massive gulf between their core belief and understanding in the ‘natural order of the world’ and reality is seized upon like a drowning man to a life jacket.

However, I have long held the belief that COVID might indeed have been an engineered bioweapon, only it is the US that developed and unleashed it.

That is nowhere near as far fetched as it might seem, because the US has a long and consistent history of biological warfare that dates back to even before the founding of the US. Smallpox blankets might have killed more Native Americans than bullets, and was instrumental in the creation of the USA as we know it today.

The CIA deployed biological weapons to wipe out Cuba’s pig population; and China itself was hit by a mystery swine pandemic that was wiping out its domestic pig population with unusual effectiveness just as the trade war with America kicked off.

Is it really such a huge leap to go from biological weapons aimed at livestock to low lethality biological weapons against humans?

It’s interesting that at the start of the pandemic, there was a lot of noise about how COVID was much more infectious to people of Chinese ancestry than Caucasian, and it was remarkable how limited the strain causing havoc in Wuhan was spreading in the west despite zero boarder controls and western governments actively breaking quarantine to fly their own citizens home and advising others in China to make their own way back.

Covid only really took off in white western nations due to a new strain developing in Italy. The Wuhan strain basically didn’t take hold in any way shape or form in the west, and covid would have been limited to China had the Italian strain not developed.

That most certainly stank of a bioweapon tailored to wreck China’s economy while leaving the white west untouched, and it was only a freak mutation out in the wild that caused it to blowback so spectacularly on the west.
 
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