Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

hashtagpls

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Stupid...

China should also stop promoting TCM. Yes there are benefits to it and should be studied but I feel there is a lot of unwarranted focus on TCM
Gotta disagree with you there pal; TCM has been proven to be an effective adjunct therapy when treating COVID patients; hell, part of the lower mortality rates in China and taiwan is because of the use of TCM alongside allopathic interventions.

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The above was what the Chinese health authorities came out with at the time in early 2020; clearly, TCM was used as both a preventative and rehab; in fact TCM is actively used in both taiwan and China today.

EDIT: The lesson of COVID isn't that one health system is superior over the other; it's that evidence based medicine still matters and it was clear that China practice evidence based medicine whilst the west practiced western chauvinism in lieu of science.
You see this western chauvinism in their insistence of penalising asian students who score well and barring them from medical schools in favour of individuals who have darker shades of skin and white females.
You tell me, which side is more politicised when it comes to science?
Only one nation harbours a demographic that still believes the earth is 4000 years old and rejects evolution.
 
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Kaeshmiri

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China should also stop promoting TCM. Yes there are benefits to it and should be studied but I feel there is a lot of unwarranted focus on TCM
Agreed. You see this stuff in India in form of Ayurveda. Nothing but voodoo science. Trad medicines do help tackling stuff like common cold, fever etc but not complex diseases.
 

hashtagpls

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There's no equivalence between the TCM practiced in China and taiwan and the cow piss drinking ayurvedic beliefs in India.
There's no drinking of cow urine in TCM, and animal parts are strictly controlled and monitored under CITES; any animal parts used tend to be from 'renewable' sources eg rhino horn replaced by buffalo horn.
Secondly, TCM practitioners in China ie doctors in China use both TCM and modern medicine; you don't have a religious dedication to it, it's not a religion the way it is for the cow urine drinkers in India.
TCM practitioners are registered even in Australia.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Gotta disagree with you there pal; TCM has been proven to be an effective adjunct therapy when treating COVID patients; hell, part of the lower mortality rates in China and taiwan is because of the use of TCM alongside allopathic interventions.

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The above was what the Chinese health authorities came out with at the time in early 2020; clearly, TCM was used as both a preventative and rehab; in fact TCM is actively used in both taiwan and China today.

EDIT: The lesson of COVID isn't that one health system is superior over the other; it's that evidence based medicine still matters and it was clear that China practice evidence based medicine whilst the west practiced western chauvinism in lieu of science.
You see this western chauvinism in their insistence of penalising asian students who score well and barring them from medical schools in favour of individuals who have darker shades of skin and white females.
You tell me, which side is more politicised when it comes to science?
Only one nation harbours a demographic that still believes the earth is 4000 years old and rejects evolution.
Also if any of you guys can’t find it, it’s on pgs 36 and 37.
 

hkbc

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Well there's the term called "spin" for a reason. Nothing of those arguments are surprising in that video. If you look at this guy's video page there's a point down the line where it's all pro-India bullsh*t and laughable given the context of what's happening today. Obviously "the European" is being paid by India in some capacity to promote Indian propaganda. There are a lot of YouTube channels that are not independent and obviously promoting a political agenda by larger entities. No Indian is going to be up front because that might get Americans angry so they get a European guy to do the heavy shaming for them. Like I said before in this forum the pro-America nonsense from some countries that are seen as close US allies those people have a love/hate relationship with the US. They love the US because they want something not because they're naturally attracted to American values. What says that the most is when Americans proclaim everyone wants to be an American hence why they come to the US. Then they'll charge immigrants don't assimilate and are here just for the money.

ummm.... Wood for the trees.... Beyond your rant about the motivations of a youtuber, US propaganda ad nauseum, there was a point to the original post

The point is despite 100+ million vaccine doses in the 90 day rolling window the death rate is still nearer 1000 a day than 500 day in the US and relatively flat, the belief that things can quickly return to how things were in mid 2019 across the world, may well be a mirage given the vaccination rates are far lower in the rest of the world. There's a longer road ahead than any elected politician would like people to be cognisant of!

Thought its important to get that out there in the covid-19 thread! Public service announcement over, the normal geopolitical to'ing and fro'ing service can resume now
 

AssassinsMace

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ummm.... Wood for the trees.... Beyond your rant about the motivations of a youtuber, US propaganda ad nauseum, there was a point to the original post

The point is despite 100+ million vaccine doses in the 90 day rolling window the death rate is still nearer 1000 a day than 500 day in the US and relatively flat, the belief that things can quickly return to how things were in mid 2019 across the world, may well be a mirage given the vaccination rates are far lower in the rest of the world. There's a longer road ahead than any elected politician would like people to be cognisant of!

Thought its important to get that out there in the covid-19 thread! Public service announcement over, the normal geopolitical to'ing and fro'ing service can resume now
Yes the truth hurts.
 

timepass

Brigadier
It’s too early to take comfort.....

However, the numbers suggest that NCOC - Pakistan (National Command & Operational Center) can be credited for having so far prevented an exponential surge in COVID cases. The stark difference between South Asian countries reflects impact of policy actions.

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