Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


Crang

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Super power India failing to live up to its part of the deal to supply vaccines and now AstraZeneca is taking legal measures. SII was forced to halt exports as cases started rising in India due to a massive second wave and multiple mutated strains.

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Just few months back Indians were gloating that there will be no second wave and that Covid has been defeated . Such articles were quite common then.

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India were more busy in supplying vaccines to countries continents away (just to score PR victories) rather than stocking up themselves.

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Now they're facing vaccine shortages . Maybe focus less on Paraguay and more on yourself?

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This is what happens when you attempt to be a global player when infact you're not even a regional one. Sometimes i wonder from where does this arrogance/delusion come from?
Jeez that is seriously idiotic. India in a New York Times article like 12 months ago that it wanted to be seen as a vaccine superpower and bet big on the AstraZeneca vaccine. Lol. Now Maharashtra is in significant trouble with COVID and it is the economic center of India. I remember watching a YouTube video comparison of India states vs Chinese provinces GDP and Maharashtra was the only one barely capable of competing against any of the Chinese provinces LOL.

Everyone wants to be a superpower.

 

AndrewS

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Super power India failing to live up to its part of the deal to supply vaccines and now AstraZeneca is taking legal measures. SII was forced to halt exports as cases started rising in India due to a massive second wave and multiple mutated strains.

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So the article mentions that the Indian government is charged $2 per dose.
The article mentions also exports doses are charged at $20.

And that to ramp up production to 1 billion doses per year will cost $400M and take 85 days.

If you do the calculations, it would only take 8 days of full-rate exports to recoup the entire cost of the facility. Call it 3 million doses per day, each with a $18 super-profit.

But the other issue is that the rest of the supply chain needs to invest to increase production as well.
 

AndrewS

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I heard that immunity only becomes a thing at around 80% vaccinated with how fast Corona can spread.

Depends on a number of factors.

How infectious are the variants, who has been infected etc etc

80% should definitely be enough however. It means only 1 in 5 people is susceptible.

So a virus needs an R number of over 5 in order to continue spreading.
 

voyager1

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India is shafting the world now.

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The Serum Institute of India, the world’s largest vaccine manufacturer, will resume exports of the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine in June but only if domestic coronavirus cases decline.

So the next vaccine doses from India will come at June, only if domestic cases have declined..

All these people praising India.. so countries and companies paid India to deliver doses, and it is now refusing to deliver. Classic Indo economics..

And all these talks of giving vaccines to ASEAN, Africa are empty talk. Who would have guessed..
At least there is still China so that the Global South can get some vaccines to start the economic recovery
 

getready

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I heard that immunity only becomes a thing at around 80% vaccinated with how fast Corona can spread.
I recall fauci was saying only 60-70% needed in an interview before way vaccines came out. . Then he revised it to 80% and when the US was having record cases he admitted maybe up to 90% is needed. And experts dun really have know for sure, they are all calculated guessing. Maybe not word for word but something to that effect.
 

ansy1968

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I recall fauci was saying only 60-70% needed in an interview before way vaccines came out. . Then he revised it to 80% and when the US was having record cases he admitted maybe up to 90% is needed. And experts dun really have know for sure, they are all calculated guessing. Maybe not word for word but something to that effect.
@getready the moment he said early on that wearing mask is not mandatory and discourage people to do so is the day I stop listening to him and any of his public speeches.
 

getready

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@getready the moment he said early on that wearing mask is not mandatory and discourage people to do so is the day I stop listening to him and any of his public speeches.
Yeah and the useless cdc also didn't recommend masking. This was in Feb last year during Chinese new year. I was in Singapore and distinctly recall going to their website. they were very late in recommending masks.

Of course this was very early and US didn't have many confirmed cases. And to be fair singapore government also didn't recommend it yet at that time, possibly due to shortage of masks and health care workers were given priority.
 

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