Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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AssassinsMace
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Hendrik_2000
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What do you mean The Chinese side clearly explained the reason for their rejection of "raw data" demand here it is
Some Western media also criticized China for limiting access to data for the research team, while a senior expert close to the joint team said China has already clarified the matter of data access. "We have already shared all the available data with the foreign experts, with full analysis… what the WHO official raised as an issue is about whether the foreign experts could copy that original data and take it away, which involves privacy and relevant laws in China," the expert said.
Wise move by the Chinese. Can you imagine these countries start doing their own investigations on this data and then start fabricating things and spreading fake news regarding the raw data. Good
Tedros didn't mention that as the reason why the Chinese didn't give out the raw data. He just said (according to that Guardian article), “In my discussions with the team, they expressed the difficulties they encountered in accessing raw data.”
I'm not blaming the Chinese at all. I'm saying that Tedros purposely or accidentally forgot to mention that key reason or that the Guardian cut out the rest of what he said.
AssassinsMace
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Well I just got my first Pfizer shot. My county's website said there was a choice of three vaccines. Nope. Just as long it wasn't AstraZeneca. With all the contradictory information out there on the news, I had no idea which one would be best anyway if I had the choice. So far only a slight muscle soreness in the shot area and had a little bit of sinus action without the headache.
Hendrik_2000
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They get access to data but not allow to photocopy due to privacy and confidentiality The lead scientist Peter Ben Embarek of WHO mention it in their briefing
The WHO team's leader, Peter Ben Embarek, told a press briefing it was "perfectly possible" the virus had been circulating in November or October 2019 around Wuhan, and so potentially spreading abroad earlier than documented so far.
"We got access to quite a lot of data in many different areas, but of course there were areas where we had difficulties getting down to the raw data and there are many good reasons for that," he said, citing privacy laws and other restrictions.
Second phase studies were required, Ben Embarek added.
He said the team had felt political pressure, including from outside China, but that he had never been pressed to remove anything from its final report.
Yep. the Guardian cut out that part. In the part where Peter Embarek presented the report, they only wrote this:
Echoing Tedros’s remarks, Ben Embarek said there were areas where his team had difficulty getting down to the raw data in China, adding that data would need to be reexamined in the next phase of the probe.
Underlining the preliminary nature of the study so far, Ben Embarek said their work had so far “only scratched the surface” of their understanding of the origins.