Chinese UAV & UCAV development


New amphibious UAV tested already.This would be perfect to supple the isolated island with medicine and other essential. But the main impetus for this cargo UAV is not military but to facilitate cheaper alternative to ground transport and reaching the difficult location. Apparently the networks are already in operation quick
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The "war" of drones, or simply unmanned aircraft of any kind, with a certain level of intelligence, between technological powers is reflected not only in the multiplication of drones in the military domain but also and especially in democratization and the integration of drone into our daily lives, both in scope and depth.

In addition to automated production facilities such as robots and conveyors, which frees maneuvers from repetitive, dangerous or low-skill tasks, the logistics domain that conditions the fluidity of industrial chains to the hands of consumers is one of the areas where the use of drone attracts major players in China.

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The small cargo drone "JDrone" (Photos: Agence Xinhua)
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After Amazon, which delivered its first delivery of a package of less than 25 kg with a rotary wing drone in December 2016, Jingdong, a Chinese company that has a B2C online sales platform and nearly 60,000 employees just on its distribution network,
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The Chinese company plans to open 150 drone landing sites in a single Sichuan province within three years.

SF Express, the second largest postal service operator after the China Post and employing 400,000 employees, is also investing heavily in research and development of a billion cargo drone.

It is the first logistics player in China that has obtained the official license to fly over a drone in Chinese airspace, issued by the Eastern Theater Command of the Chinese Army and valid within a radius of 100 km around the city of Ganzhou.

In July this year, SF Express flies an amphibious drone with a carrying capacity of 250 kg, with a range of 10 hours in flight.

Another SF Express drone project launched by SF Express in 2015, capable of transporting up to a ton of cargo, and in collaboration with Xianyang Pianzhuan, the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the CETC electronic group and the Chinese aircraft manufacturer AVIC, also to make its inaugural flight this month.

This 3,395-kilogram MTOW drone, transformed from a single-engined PAC 750XL turboprop monoplane , has just
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Measuring 11.84 meters long and with a wingspan of 12.8 meters, this future SF Express freighter drone has an autonomy of 2,183 km or 8 hours in flight.

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The future cargo drone of SF Express, with a capacity of 1 000 kg.
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According to the statement of the Chinese giant in distribution, more than 80% of delivery volume still focuses on the east coast of the country, where the economic and demographic development is the densest. Despite its thirty freight aircraft and a very large fleet of ground and river resources, SF Express indicates that there are still very difficult areas of access in China.

For example, transporting a Chengdu to Panzhihua parcel over a 500 km flight is now taking between 12 to 15 hours by road, and it will take less than 3 hours to deliver even parcels by a cargo drone.

Drones thus reduce not only the duration and the expenditure in the field of distribution, but above all to free geographical constraints and thus contribute to growth by domestic consumption and absorb a part of overcapacity of production in China .

This explains why the drone has just been included in the "National Plan for Development and Planning of Artificial Intelligence of New Generation" ( 新一代 人工智能 发展 规划) , published in early July by the Chinese State Council.

With more than 30 billion express parcels delivered in 2016, this gigantic well-protected market of foreign players and high growth potential also brings to light many Startup projects of cargo drone, bigger (in size) to each other.

For example, the FM-15 drone of the startup
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with a mass of 5,500 kg on take-off. Modified from a former Chinese Y-5B biplane , the drone has a comfortable volume of 11.8 m3 for cargo and a carrying capacity of 1500 kg, making it the largest cargo drone in China.

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According to its CEO, QI Feng, a 30-year-old young woman who has already launched a multi-rotor civilian drone project, FM-15's business model is based on an online capacity sharing platform. the company intends to offer a turnkey "turnkey kit" to convert other aircraft from general aviation to a transport drone.

QI also took the example of transporting parcels from Chengdu to Panzhihua, indicating that truck operating costs are around 7 yuan (€ 0.89) per tonne, whereas for a cargo drone, which is flying for a distance of 352 km, this cost is only 5,12 yuan (0,65 €), a considerable decrease of 27%.
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New picture of missile carried by CH5. This CH5 is better than WingLoong II It has higher payload 1200kg vs 500kg has more or less the same loiter time of 30hr. A bit slower speed 220km/hr vs 400km/hr. It is close to the performance of predator with a third the size of engine 350 hp vs 900hp. The only bad thing about Chinese UAV is their ceiling height of only 9000m vs 16000m for predator.Also it carry less load 1200kg vs 1500kg About the same range as predator 2000km vs 1800km
But better engine is coming up with tie up between Motor Sich and Skyrizon

ASM missile?

LGB dummy?

CH5 spec
According to the latest specifications briefed to IHS Jane's by a senior CASC official on 6 November, the medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) CH-5 features a lightweight all-composite airframe structure that is 11 m long and has a wingspan of 21 m. The air vehicle has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 3,300 kg and can carry a 1,200 kg payload, with an internal mission bay capacity of 200 kg and the remainder provisioned for underwing stores.

CASC has specified an operating range of up to 250 km via line-of-sight datalink, although this can be extended to 2,000 km when satellite communication (SATCOM) protocols are employed. It is also capable of autonomous flight using pre-programmed waypoint navigation, with taxiing, take-off, and landing manoeuvres also fully automated.

While the senior official cannot be identified due to strict media engagement policies, he nevertheless revealed that the CH-5 is equipped with a 330 hp heavy-fuel engine (HFE) that provides it with an operating endurance of up to 60 hours with high reliability, although this can be substituted with a 300 hp gasoline engine that offers up to 39 hours of endurance. Yan added that the HFE option enables the CH-5 to achieve a loiter speed of 180-220 km/h and a maximum speed in excess of 300 km/h, with a service ceiling of 30,000 ft (7,000 m).

Predator Spec
A typical MQ-9 system consists of multiple aircraft, ground control station, communications equipment, maintenance spares, and personnel. A military crew includes a pilot, sensor operator, and Mission Intelligence Coordinator.
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The aircraft is powered by a 950 horsepower (710 kW)
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, with a maximum speed of about 260 knots (480 km/h; 300 mph) and a cruising speed of 150–170 knots (170–200 mph; 280–310 km/h). With a 66 ft (20 m) wingspan, and a maximum payload of 3,800 lb (1,700 kg), the MQ-9 can be armed with a variety of weaponry, including
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Endurance is 30 hours when conducting
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missions, which decreases to 23 hours if it is carrying a full weapons load.
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The Reaper has a range of 1,000 nmi (1,150 mi; 1,850 km)[
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] and an operational altitude of 50,000 ft (15,000 m), which makes it especially useful for long-term loitering operations, both for surveillance and support of ground troops.
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Wingloong II spec
However, despite being almost identical in appearance and size, the Wing Loong II falls short in terms of overall flight performance with a stated maximum speed of 370 km/h and service ceiling of 30,000 ft (9,000 m) compared with Reaper's 444 km/h and 50,000 ft. This is likely a result of the Chinese defence industry's documented deficiencies in aerospace propulsion technologies, forcing manufacturers to import foreign engines or rely on less capable indigenous systems.
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Kelvin Wong from Jane markit pick up the news and his analysis of the new missile. apparently the missile use LOBL(Lock on before launch) protocol which is good so they can shoot and scoot. they also tested AR1 anti armor missile
China’s CH-5 UAV conducts live-fire trial with new precision weapon
Kelvin Wong - IHS Jane's International Defence Review
25 September 2017
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CASC’s latest CH-5 armed reconnaissance UAV pictured with guided weapons during a 21 September test at an undisclosed airport in north-western China. Source: Jane's sources
Key Points
  • The China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation integrated a new 80 kg precision guided missile on its Cai Hong 5 armed reconnaissance UAV
  • The latest test in northwestern China also enabled engineers to refine the CH-5's sensor systems as well as its payload release mechanisms
China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) has successfully integrated and launched a new precision guided missile (PGM) on its Cai Hong 5 (Rainbow 5, or CH-5) strike-capable, medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle (MALE UAV), Jane’s sources have confirmed.

The latest test was staged out of an undisclosed airport in the northwestern province of Gansu during the morning of 21 September, with CASC engineers successfully deploying a new 80 kg-class PGM – carrying a blast fragmentation warhead – via lock-on before launch (LOBL) targeting protocols from a production-model CH-5 at a launch altitude of 11,482 ft.

Further details of the new PGM were not disclosed, although it is understood that the latest effort also enabled engineers to further test and fine-tune the CH-5’s electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) payload as well as its weapons targeting and rail-mounted payload release mechanisms.

“We demonstrated the CH-5’s ability to win the initiative in any battlefield with its reconnaissance and strike ability, and our latest success exemplifies the maturity of our advanced products,” a company spokesperson told Jane’s .

Company sources also revealed to Jane’s that the 45 kg-class AR-1 semi-active laser (SAL) anti-armour missile was successfully integrated and certified for delivery aboard the CH-5 in August.


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Interesting article about Chinese amphibious drone for civilian usage ...
World's first amphibious drone made in Shanghai
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) 08:56, September 26, 2017

A U650 unmanned amphibious aircraft undergoes tests in Central China at the end of 2016. [Photo provided to China Daily]

A Chinese company has produced the world's first unmanned, amphibious commercial aircraft, with plans to use it to deliver goods, transport supplies to islands and detect submarines, according to the manufacturer.

Liu Jiandong, founder and chairman of UVS Intelligence System, a privately owned drone-maker in Shanghai, said mass production of its U650 seaplane has begun and will enter commercial operation this year with a Chinese express delivery company and a client in Southeast Asia.

He declined to name the buyers, citing business confidentiality, but said both contracts had "considerable value".

"We are working with the domestic client to apply for approval from air traffic management authorities of our plan to open a freight route next year using the amphibious drone," he said.

The U650 was developed based on Spain's Colyaer Freedom S100 amphibious ultralight aircraft, whose intellectual property rights were wholly acquired by the Shanghai company, according to UVS.

The amphibious drone carried out its maiden flight from waters in Central China in December 2015, the company said.

The 5.85-meter-long unmanned seaplane, made of carbon fiber, is able to stay aloft 15 hours with a cruising speed of 180 kilometers per hour and a flight range of 2,000 km. It is capable of takeoffs and landings from short unpaved airstrips, grassland or water.

The drone can carry up to 250 kilograms of cargo and its wings can also carry four payloads, such as inflatable life rafts.

Liu said his company sees domestic and foreign couriers as the U650's primary users. It expects the model to be a commercial success because "it is the only civilian drone in the global market that is capable of ferrying cargo with a total weight of 200 kg or even heavier".

Express delivery enterprises along China's eastern and southern coastal regions will find the U650 useful, he said. Those areas are densely populated and have busy airline operations that lead to many restrictions when it comes to drone flights.

"Our aircraft can fly above, and land on, water. Its range is much longer than those of small types, so it doesn't need to make stops during a delivery mission. It will not risk the safety of people or airliners," Liu said.

Almost all of China's large couriers, such as China Post and SF Express, have begun to invest in research and development on delivery drones. Analysts have said drones will play an increasingly important role in the country's skyrocketing online shopping industry.

Globally, Amazon and DHL Express have deployed drones for delivery service on a small and experimental scale, and are continuing to design new models.

In addition to couriers, U650 will also be able to benefit Chinese troops and residents on islands and reefs in the South China Sea, Liu said.

"It can be used to transport supplies to those islands and reefs many times a day at a low cost while ships and manned planes are subject to weather and expenditure considerations," he said. "Meanwhile, the deployment of such drones will make it possible for those living there to have access to online shopping, which they are unable to do now because of the absence of delivery service."

The U650 is capable of carrying out reconnaissance and strikes for the military thanks to its ability to carry radar, sonar or missiles.

"For instance, the drone can remain afloat at sea to tow sonar to detect submarines and move rapidly to other areas to continue the search," Liu said.


What is the implication of CH5 in future warfare concerning China As I had said before the old model of trench or static warfare with machine gun nest and foxhole is slowly come to a a close. Stationing large troop in Himalaya doesn't make sense anymore since they can easily picked up by the cheap drone and LGB. Interestingly Martian come to the same conclusion Here I posted his thought Any comment?. Here is his post in Pakdef. He wrote about hypothetical conflict with Vietnam but apply equally well to India

An often-raised question is: Can't countries like Vietnam fight a guerrilla war against China in a replay of the US-Vietnam War?

The answer is clearly "no" for three reasons.

1. ElectroMagnetic Pulse (EMP) weapon. After the 1960s, EMPs became a mature technology. If China detonates a Megaton-class EMP above Vietnam, it would destroy all of the electronics in Vietnam. This would literally send Vietnam back to the Stone Age. Game over and the war is over.

2. Logistical Difference. The United States had to transport every soldier, weapon, ammunition, and food supply from the continental United States to Vietnam. There was a restriction in the quantity of personnel and weaponry that could be shipped 10,000 miles halfway across the planet.

Geographically, China is located next to Vietnam. China can bring unlimited soldiers, howitzers, tanks, and artillery shells onto a battlefield in Vietnam. Unlimited troops and firepower means a short land war.

3. Robotic drones. We have now arrived at the high-tech evolution of robotic weaponry. In the past (such as the US-Vietnam War), guerrillas could sneak around in the dark at night or under the cover of forest canopy during the daytime. This kind of guerrilla troop movement is no longer possible.

China's CH-5 combat UAV can stay aloft for 60 hours at a time. It carries 1,000kg (or 2,200 pounds) of weaponry. Its Electro-Optical/InfraRed (EO/IR) ball sensor can easily detect warm-body guerrillas. A fleet of Chinese CH-5 UAVs would rain down death on enemy guerrillas.

China's CH-5 UAV flies at 11,500 feet. It can also be used to patrol and assert military control over the South China Sea shipping lanes.