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luminary

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There's a bunch of generically named technology and China-focused channels on youtube like:
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Some of them have even racked up decent views and subscriber counts. Can't tell if it's amateur or government backed... It sounds like they're translating Chinese news articles and putting it through TTS software.
 

Quan8410

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There's a bunch of generically named technology and China-focused channels on youtube like:
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Some of them have even racked up decent views and subscriber counts. Can't tell if it's amateur or government backed... It sounds like they're translating Chinese news articles and putting it through TTS software.
These types of channels not very well-edited at all. Hard to believe these are government-backed but Chinese government is not exactly known at propaganda war either.
 

luminary

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Chinese infrastructure actually generates soft power in countries passively over time. A commuter of the Indonesia HSR will make positively association with China multiple times a day. China does not spend anything to achieve this.

In contrast, the West relies on continuous heavy investment into its media to shape short term public sentiment. Media barrage is all outrage, sound bites and viral headlines that gets forgotten the next news cycle. 30 years after the US-Japan trade war, nobody remembers the public panic and outspoken racism then, but everybody knows the brands Honda and Toyota.
 

tonyget

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Chinese infrastructure actually generates soft power in countries passively over time. A commuter of the Indonesia HSR will make positively association with China multiple times a day. China does not spend anything to achieve this.

How many Americans remember or appreciate Chinese labour's contribution in US infrastructure building up in 19th century?

In contrast, the West relies on continuous heavy investment into its media to shape short term public sentiment. Media barrage is all outrage, sound bites and viral headlines that gets forgotten the next news cycle. 30 years after the US-Japan trade war, nobody remembers the public panic and outspoken racism then, but everybody knows the brands Honda and Toyota.

Americans also know the brand of Huawei thanks to US gov,so what?
 

tonyget

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Did google comply with the Chinese laws? It didn't. Google didn't comply with Chinese laws in the first place so why should it get accessed to the Chinese market. Same thing with other social media companies. They need first to comply with Chinese laws before granting access to the Chinese market.

Irrelevant. Does not change the fact that China has control over TikTok

Another rambling that I don't know what you are trying to say.

vice-versa

Chinese people fighting special interests and granting Chinese market access to CIA google, FB, and Twitter are two different things. Your attempt to put these two things together show me your true intention is.

Your attempt to make Chinese people submit to special interests show your true intention
 

tonyget

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No, it doesn't. It means everyone else here on the forum you are participating in and can vote with their support on posts. It's tangible rather than the, "Oh Chinese people in China are different from you guys" claim. You can check the Chinese forums too: "Does a creepy foreigner trolling Chinese forums on Google translate have an authentic Chinese experience?" The political forums will give you the finger and the other ones will ignore it because they have no idea what that that bullcrap is even about. But that's apparently where you want to be, right?

Aren't you the one who claim that Chinese people in China are different from you guys"?You just said that the mass of Chinese ranks are "insufficiently educated",and the oversea Chinese are the one "who really knows the country"

And apparently every other member here because this is a defense forum, which is the backbone to politics. Didn't know you were here to talk about random other things. Maybe mind the forum name next time.

I'm talking about domestic forum,not this forum

I don't converse with foreign creeps in Chinese. It is reserved for business use and use with my countrymen.

Don't get mad

I simply said that English speaking Chinese have a broader understanding of the world and the battlefield in large whereas those who have never left China understand a much smaller and seemingly less dangerous world. I never said superior. Those guys in China can math/physics/innovate the shit out of anybody anyday no matter what the language.

Really?Those who never left the country are much more prone to CCP propaganda,those who has been abroad for a while are much more prone to western propaganda. So you are saying that being exposed to western propaganda gives you "a broader understanding of the world and the battlefield in large",interesting.

Well, that will apparantly depend on what you're talking about. And that topic could very well result in a selection bias if most people with less extreme opinions do not go online to express them. What are you talking about?

What makes you think that people with less "extreme opinions" have lower internet literacy(go online)than people with more "extreme opinions"?

No, it's just that I had no idea that you were so far off topic that I was wrong to assume that it was even politically-directioned. I don't know what the hell you're talking about now. It could be any random hobby in China. Get back to me when you grow a spine and can nail down a topic rather than trying to escape every debate with, "Oh, I wasn't talking about that. Why do you assume I was? Oh, no it's not this either. Politics isn't important. I'm not talking about anything in particular." LOL Get the bones to stand up before you jellyfish yourself into a fight.

I‘m not in SDF to fight anybody,I have long passed that stage. You don't think I'm making any sense?Just ignore me

You're the one assuming everyone's life is what you read on the screen. That's what you directly said; it is not data extrapolation from yours or our post counts. I have been here longer than you, post more than you but like I said, my interactions are at least 10X more in person. All facts.

I guess that "screen" include SDF right?Don't assume Chinese people‘s life is what read on this forum,get it.

I have never seen a Chinese person call himself a France/UK/Australia/US expert before. To all the Chinese people, I say, be an expert in STEM, not in some other culture.

There are tons of Chinese influencers acting as if they are XX country's expert on social media and video platform

Damn you're ignorant. Do you think this is a Chinese forum or something? This is an American forum. Do you even realize that? There were no Chinese-speaking mods when the forum began. So obviously, they didn't want Chinese people to post Chinese everywhere on an American forum making it foreign to its own creators and officers. The reason you might think this is a Chinese forum is that it has become so pro-China in recent years because, apparently, the truth has a pro-Chinese angle.

Here is your original words “It's for Chinese people in China and the English version is for Chinese people overseas, sometimes with limited Chinese command”

You literally said that this forum is for Chinese people overseas,if that is true,how come members here don't understand Chinese?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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How many Americans remember or appreciate Chinese labour's contribution in US infrastructure building up in 19th century?
big difference between Chinese laborers being enslaved by American companies and working under American direction vs. Chinese companies designing infrastructure and making profit from other countries with foreign workers operating under Chinese instruction.

unfortunately nobody remembers or cares about the ordinary people, they only care about who made the money in the end.
 

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