Chinese semiconductor thread II

Tomboy

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The first benchmark results for the Kirin 9030 series have been announced, The clock speed is not 100% exploited yet... so this is just a temporary score
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Unless I'm tripping this is basically Snapdragon 888 level performance for single core and multicore is only Snapdragon 8 gen 2 equivalent... Both are 3-4 year old chips by now, the latest Snapdragon 8 series chip has more than double the performance.

The full product better be much much better than this.
 

latenlazy

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Unless I'm tripping this is basically Snapdragon 888 level performance for single core and multicore is only Snapdragon 8 gen 2 equivalent... Both are 3-4 year old chips by now, the latest Snapdragon 8 series chip has more than double the performance.

The full product better be much much better than this.
Uhh maybe you should keep your expectations realistic?
 

Phead128

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Unless I'm tripping this is basically Snapdragon 888 level performance for single core and multicore is only Snapdragon 8 gen 2 equivalent... Both are 3-4 year old chips by now, the latest Snapdragon 8 series chip has more than double the performance.

The full product better be much much better than this.
Unless you are bitcoin mining on your cell phone, a 3 year old 4nm chip is more than enough for 99.99% of users.

If you put it that way, SMIC's achievement is even more impressive, reduced to only 3 year lag.
 

Michael90

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This why China needs to make her own lithography machines ASAP.

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lol I don’t see why some of you guys are surprised. Europe has always been and will for the firseeebale future be on the side of the US when push comes to shove against any US advesary/rival. So I don’t think there’s anything surprising seeing the Dutch working hand in hand and even volunteering their largest and most advanced tech company to spy on China for the US for free. In fact China should assume that almost every European company will do or is doing the same. so it’s up to them to take their own measures to protect themselves . Geo politics is not a fairy tale lol you can’t blame others if you don’t take precautions to protect your secrets and tech. lol moreover, I don’t think Chinanjad a choice anyway to be honest, since they have been way behind the US/west/Japan/Taiwan in semiconductors, chips ,lithography etc for a long time, so even if they know they still had to keep relying on these machines to keep their products going despite the risks.
however things are slowly changing , so when they know they have caught up they will obviously reduce their reliance on the is companies products for a long time
 

olalavn

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Unless I'm tripping this is basically Snapdragon 888 level performance for single core and multicore is only Snapdragon 8 gen 2 equivalent... Both are 3-4 year old chips by now, the latest Snapdragon 8 series chip has more than double the performance.

The full product better be much much better than this.
You forgot one thing, this is HarmonyOS not Android.... HarmonyOS ecosystem works more smoothly than IOS... Huawei is using the system to compensate for chip performance...
 

huemens

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The first benchmark results for the Kirin 9030 series have been announced, The clock speed is not 100% exploited yet... so this is just a temporary score
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Geekbench doesn't support HarmonyOS Next. It says Android 12 on the screenshot itself. So it is either totally fake or done on an Android emulator. In either case it's pointless.
 

Tomboy

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You forgot one thing, this is HarmonyOS not Android.... HarmonyOS ecosystem works more smoothly than IOS... Huawei is using the system to compensate for chip performance...
I thought people here were looking up to Kirin 9030 as a general benchmark of domestic semiconductor technology and from the looks It's not good... Not really concerned of how the phone is but more concerned about how behind we are.

Praying it is either fake or suffering massive performance penalty due to using a emulator.
 

mossen

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Interesting views on Baidu.


If they can diversify from just being a search provider (and a bad one at that) to infra, then maybe they aren't as doomed as I thought they would be. Still think they are behind Huawei.

In the US ecosystem, even inferior Amazon Trainium (relative NV and TPUs) chips get used because demand simply outstrips supply. Kunlun might be the same wrt Huawei's Atlas offering.
 
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