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ansy1968

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The Americans are stupid.

One president said that China pays the tariff.

The next president agrees and continue with the same policy.

Both SMIC and Huawei still extremely well, one making record profits, the other not much really changed for their profitability.

If that is American ruthlessness, then China needs more of that.

The truth is, that it is slipping away from the Americans.

Being ruthless or not, has no bearing on the current day, and the coming outcomes.
@horse Bro I placed my judgment on what the Chinese are doing, if this sanction and more in coming is done to scare and restrict the Chinese is it working? Well it hit both Huawei and SMIC hard but it survived and made them more stronger in the long run. What I see is the calmness and confidence instead of Panic and it really vexing the American really hard...lol in fact those frustration is giving the Chinese a Hard BxxxR...hahaha Bro my guess and is that the domestic 14nm line is done with verification and all, next year deployment may include 7nm trial run and verification for its 2023 deployment. Bro there is a thread here about China war economic production capacity, I think China now is in a war footing to decouple itself from the West and preparation is done for possible war and sanction, it had become a whole nation approach. Xi had decided to fight, the reason is simple , Its for the survival of the Chinese civilization and its people. And the West need to study history and see where the Chinese confidence came from, its not bravado but the Chinese are use to hardship and sacrifice and when faced with adversity and threat, it always create miracle due to collective will and purpose.
 
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Annihilation98

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Any news on SMEE DUV 28nm? When it can be completed? 2022? 2023? We need 7nm faster now. SMIC now still stuck at 14nm since mid-last year. why? This is a bad sign man.
 

ansy1968

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Any news on SMEE DUV 28nm? When it can be completed? 2022? 2023? We need 7nm faster now. SMIC now still stuck at 14nm since mid-last year. why? This is a bad sign man.
@Annihilation98 yup heard you loud and clear bro, they should set 7nm as a goal instead of achieving CORE COMPETENCY, stupid Chinese....lol Seriously bro just wait all in due time as the Chinese saying goes " PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE".
 

Annihilation98

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@Annihilation98 yup heard you loud and clear bro, they should set 7nm as a goal instead of achieving CORE COMPETENCY, stupid Chinese....lol Seriously bro just wait all in due time as the Chinese saying goes " PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE".
Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
 

In4ser

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Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
That won't happen if it does, it shows how short-sighted the US is. They're killing their own attempts to revitalizing their struggling semiconductor industry and pretty much guarantee the success of Harmony OS and domestic chips in the Chinese market.
 

ansy1968

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Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
@Annihilation98 again bro heard you, That's as low as one can get and the aftermath is to go up (Huawei and other sanction Chinese company), the US used the nuclear option and those two company not only survived it thrive, the important thing is the CORE COMPETENCY, we had achieved it and it need time for the final product to mature and be commercially viable. Bro Trump had used up all his ammo and Biden bereft of ammunition used threatening words instead....lol The Ship had sailed and may return with a Corps of Chinese marines ready to do battle....hahaha
 
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Topazchen

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Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
You want China make an EUV and catch up with TSMC in 2 months?
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
They won't sanction Lenovo, cause is almost like an American company. If you buy Lenovo you almost buy American laptop.
 

manqiangrexue

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Patience? LOL Look at Huawei. The world now forgets about Huawei as the US sanction them without mercy. What if the US sanctions Chinese companies like Xiaomi, BBk electronic, Lenovo, or all Chinese companies from using their chips or software from now. China company has no replacement and the popularity will be faded away. The world will focus on Samsung or sony again.
Yeah, that's right, patience. It's the opposite of panic flailing, which you seem to be advocating. Nobody has forgotten about Huawei and Huawei is doing just fine because it is not reliant on its phones. It's making strides working with other Chinese companies and institutes to make home-grown technology, which is a correct and necessary step before China can really overtake the US. It takes time and it takes patience but it is the only way to be a true tech superpower. No patience = no success; no exceptions.
 
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