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Xizor

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What is China going to do with their new GPU, now that they have banned bitcoin mining and are now restraining the development of the gaming industry. Gaming giant Tencent is under pressure. Medals will be awarded in esports in the next Asian Games. Twitch is as popular as ever worldwide. Big economic losses in China in those areas.
Tencent could launch their version of Playstation or Xbox. Filled to the brim with Chinese AAA titles / foreign ones.

Atleast that's what id have tried. EPiC gaming consoles.
 

siegecrossbow

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Tencent could launch their version of Playstation or Xbox. Filled to the brim with Chinese AAA titles / foreign ones.

Atleast that's what id have tried. Epic gaming consoles.

It's pointless unless you have enough games (good ones too) unique to your platform. China actually tried this as early as the late 1990s. It failed not because of intrinsic quality issues but because there is no developer for the platform.
 

Xizor

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It's pointless unless you have enough games (good ones too) unique to your platform. China actually tried this as early as the late 1990s. It failed not because of intrinsic quality issues but because there is no developer for the platform.
But things have changed now, haven't it? With mobile payment systems, if somehow a stremlined micro transactions network are introduced ( Tencent Pay) then developers rs would rush into the market setting up Chinese branches of their gaming titles.
 

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New Fab being led by Richard Chang (Founder of SMIC)

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Richard Chang, a semiconductor industry veteran and founder of China’s biggest chip maker Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC), is behind a new chip making plant in the country, which began operations this week, according to two industry sources.

The foundry, SiEn (Qingdao) Integrated Circuits Co, has kicked off production of 8-inch silicon wafers in the Chinese city of Qingdao and is currently testing a new 12-inch production line, the sources said, in a move that will add to the country’s capacity at the mature technology nodes.

An executive at GigaDevice Semiconductor (GD), a Chinese flash memory designer, told the Post that his company started cooperating with the foundry several months ago. The executive, who declined to be named as he is not authorised to speak publicly about production arrangements, said the more advanced 12-inch line was about to start operating as well.
 

BlackWindMnt

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It's pointless unless you have enough games (good ones too) unique to your platform. China actually tried this as early as the late 1990s. It failed not because of intrinsic quality issues but because there is no developer for the platform.
There has been a stream of really good hits coming out of China lately. If China can grow like 20 more studios that can deliver quality like Ghenshin Impact, Dyson sphere project, potential of Black Myth: Wukong and more like those. Create the market and the developers will come.

Especially that Wukong recruitment trailer from last year shocked the gaming world for a while that something of such quality was being made in China by a relative small team using Unreal engine 4.

Don't forget every device needs a GPU from mobile, media boxes, laptops, gaming desktops etc. Can't do much with only a CPU given todays media requirement.

If you're in the west you can use crypto against the massive inflation that is happening, but for China it has less uses it only takes away from their economy they can probably use the energy to produce way more value then mining bitcoin. If you make things you sell those things for bitcoin given China's status as the world factory if it wants to it can gather all the bitcoins.
 

antiterror13

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There is very little that Taiwan can do.

Travelers need not directly travel to China. There are a large number of transit hubs, such as Hong Kong, Thailand, Korea etc.....

As long as the money is there, workers will leave, it's just a matter of financial threshold. 50% more, I might think about it, 300% more and I'll be on the plane tomorrow. It is the same way Halliburton and Blackwater attracted employees between 2004 and 2012.

Ironically, the more Taiwan restrict, the more they become tyrannical, and more likely to induce curiosity and tech transfers.

well, unless Taiwan govt ban key tech workers going overseas .. absolutely nothing they can do ... go ahead banning those workers ;)
 

FairAndUnbiased

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There has been a stream of really good hits coming out of China lately. If China can grow like 20 more studios that can deliver quality like Ghenshin Impact, Dyson sphere project, potential of Black Myth: Wukong and more like those. Create the market and the developers will come.

Especially that Wukong recruitment trailer from last year shocked the gaming world for a while that something of such quality was being made in China by a relative small team using Unreal engine 4.

Don't forget every device needs a GPU from mobile, media boxes, laptops, gaming desktops etc. Can't do much with only a CPU given todays media requirement.

If you're in the west you can use crypto against the massive inflation that is happening, but for China it has less uses it only takes away from their economy they can probably use the energy to produce way more value then mining bitcoin. If you make things you sell those things for bitcoin given China's status as the world factory if it wants to it can gather all the bitcoins.

my understanding is that mobile GPUs are integrated into their SoCs. media boxes aren't really GPUs either, they're LCD drivers. they aren't really involved in calculating the shading and polygons which is the hard part.
 

BlackWindMnt

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my understanding is that mobile GPUs are integrated into their SoCs. media boxes aren't really GPUs either, they're LCD drivers. they aren't really involved in calculating the shading and polygons which is the hard part.
AMD and Samsung at the moment have a collab to integrate AMD RDNA2 into exynos SoCs. Right now at the moment you pretty much need to use ARM Mali GPU for mobile SoC.

I think there is a lot of money to be earned if a Chinese company could also collab with Chinese Semi designers like Hisilicon, T-head etc. Money that will stay in China and will be reinvested inside of China instead of licensing stuff from ARM.

Also did the NVidia arm gone death or are they still negotiating?
 

antiterror13

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AMD and Samsung at the moment have a collab to integrate AMD RDNA2 into exynos SoCs. Right now at the moment you pretty much need to use ARM Mali GPU for mobile SoC.

I think there is a lot of money to be earned if a Chinese company could also collab with Chinese Semi designers like Hisilicon, T-head etc. Money that will stay in China and will be reinvested inside of China instead of licensing stuff from ARM.

Also did the NVidia arm gone death or are they still negotiating?

I don't think Nvidia and ARM would go ahead, China would "veto" it
 
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