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siegecrossbow

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Thanks for posting it. Much appreaciated.

Question? Is Quanzhou Jinhua a successor fo Fujian Jinhua? Apparently this is already a several months old news. Looks like dating January 2021. Anyway, if it is still operating and already producing DRAM, even if in trial attempts, this is great news.

Any further more recent news?

Quanzhou is a city in Fujian.
 

KYli

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Thanks for posting it. Much appreaciated.

Question? Is Quanzhou Jinhua a successor fo Fujian Jinhua? Apparently this is already a several months old news. Looks like dating January 2021. Anyway, if it is still operating and already producing DRAM, even if in trial attempts, this is great news.

Any further more recent news?
It is the same company. Fujian Jinhua is sometime called Jinhua and since the company is located in Quanzhou so sometime people call it Quanzhou Jinhua.
 

gelgoog

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So it is out there in the wild in China. Cool.
They are way behind the curve but that cannot be helped given the tools they have available to them.
 

jfcarli

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I wonder if JHICC ever produced anything. If they did, they should still have all the machinery and equipment necessary for production of chips.

I imagine they would not get rid of that, in which case someone must be using the equipment. I wonder if YMTC did not get all or part of that.

There is also the plant for Towerjazz which apparently succeeded Global Foundries. It does seem that they had some equipment and even seems to have had some initial production.

There is also what was purchased by Wuhan Hongxin Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. I wonder what is being made of all this equipment of the companies which went bust.
 
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Weaasel

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If China keeps manufacturing and exporting air conditioners, refrigerators, lamps, etc... which operate with Harmony OS, sooner or later even outside China people will discover that Harmony OS on their phones will be indispensable to control all the other equipment in their houses/offices/cars.
Othe non Chinese operating systems can be utilized to do the same thing and they can be incorporated into non Chinese made goods. So, no, Harmony OS will not be indispensable.
 

Kancil

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Othe non Chinese operating systems can be utilized to do the same thing and they can be incorporated into non Chinese made goods. So, no, Harmony OS will not be indispensable.
No, so far there is no other equivalent OS which can operate across smartphones, IoT, smart devices, home appliances and autonomous driving like Harmony or there is none for the next few years. Huawei will have the first mover advantage. The existing few hundred million Huawei smartphones augmented by the many large Chinese manufacturers of home appliances, EV and smart devices means Huawei will have a very convincing lead. Other non-Chinese manufacturers will have difficulties catching up with smart devices without a master OS like Harmony. Maybe Apple will have an equivalent OS but Apple will have to convince non-Apple home appliances manufacturers to install their OS for a decent market share. Possibly Samsung & LG would team up with Google or Japanese/German manufacturers with Google?
 

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No, so far there is no other equivalent OS which can operate across smartphones, IoT, smart devices, home appliances and autonomous driving like Harmony or there is none for the next few years. Huawei will have the first mover advantage. The existing few hundred million Huawei smartphones augmented by the many large Chinese manufacturers of home appliances, EV and smart devices means Huawei will have a very convincing lead. Other non-Chinese manufacturers will have difficulties catching up with smart devices without a master OS like Harmony. Maybe Apple will have an equivalent OS but Apple will have to convince non-Apple home appliances manufacturers to install their OS for a decent market share. Possibly Samsung & LG would team up with Google or Japanese/German manufacturers with Google?

I hear what you are saying and that is absolutely good!

Actually, that is how we know we are getting old. We see something, we sense this is good, but that is where it stops because it is so good or different than what we are used to, we cannot grasp it that easily.

Do I want a "smart appliance?" Of course not, I do not want to be playing on my phone all the the time. Gives me eye strain. But, the newer generations are cell phone dependent. Every generation is a little different. The new generations are the future.

The phone, the appliances, transportation, all based on one O/S the Harmony O/S.

We can have several O/S to do the same, phone, appliances, transportation. Just like we have several O/S to do the same for the office workers ... ... NOT!

There is only one O/S for corporate America for the office workers. There will be only one O/S for IoT. Actually at this moment, there is only one, there is no alternative to Harmony O/S for IoT.

And we are not talking about just a few geeks in the corner doing some experiment, they got some fairly decent scale, and they can scale it up rather quickly too.

Xiao Mi must come out with their own Harmony O/S as an O/S for the IoT to compete with Huawei O/S. If their Xiao Mi O/S is not as good and people do not like it, then that will impact phone sales, and their appliance sales. Maybe it makes more business sense to use Harmony O/S for every phone maker in China, and not go into a fight for O/S dominance.

Over time, there should be only one dominant IoT operating system.

:D
 
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