US senators are calling for Biden to change. To pressure ASML even for DUV.
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few units already shipped to China. A fab only need 1or 2 units of advanced duvUS senators are calling for Biden to change. To pressure ASML even for DUV.
Personally speaking i actually support a US and EU ban on Chip Making equipment to China.
This will basically force Chinese Industry to upgrade their Chip Manufacturing Equipment and start to produce more advanced DUVL and EUVL Lithographs rapidly.
The news that Empyrean has developed EDA to design 28nm Chips is a major breakthrough.
This restrictions on China is a once in a lifetime opportunity for China to breakfree from using US IP in the local Chip Manufacturing Process.
Any US and EU ban on selling Chip Making Equipment to China is based on the flawed assumption that China can't innovate etc.
This is a flawed assumption and will cost the US and EU dearly in the future.
Any bans will hit the sales of ASML, LAM, KLA TENCOR etc and will shrink their sales as China is the biggest market for their equipment. Less sales means less funds for R&D. More sales for Chinese companies will benefit the Chinese IC Industry.
If the US and EU are deluded enough to sanction, then it is handing the China market on a platter to SMEE, CTEC, NORTH etc.
However i expect the likes of ASML and US IC Equipment Manufacturers to push their case and try to derail this move to sanctions. They may or may not suceed but either way China will be the winner.
Changchun optics was involved in China space and satellite program and military laser program, its background enable to put together EUV prototype together in 2017.
SMEE DUV is projected to established 28nm fully by 2024 and introduced 14nm improved version in 2014.
Hopefully the commercial EUV will come out in 2025 to pick the slack for DUV.
How about maintenance and supplies though?few units already shipped to China. A fab only need 1or 2 units of advanced duv
That depend on your volume.and if you need further expansion and continuous support from ASML.few units already shipped to China. A fab only need 1or 2 units of advanced duv
TSMC has 13 EUV.
@Oldschool @foofy Sir I know its a stupid question but can ASML DUVL work with Chinese made equipment? I know AMEC is being used by TSMC.
Do you know asml still maintains machines in fujian Jinhua which in us export control list？How about maintenance and supplies though?
Of course can@Oldschool @foofy Sir I know its a stupid question but can ASML DUVL work with Chinese made equipment? I know AMEC is being used by TSMC.
Lmao. Did the Americans not ban maintenance too? Big mistake!Do you know asml still maintains machines in fujian Jinhua which in us export control list？
@Oldschool Sir I thought the 28nm DUVL is part of 13th 5 year plan 2016 -2020? so maybe 2022 instead of 2024? with urgency maybe the CCP will fast track it?Changchun optics was involved in China space and satellite program and military laser program, its background enable to put together EUV prototype together in 2017.
SMEE DUV is projected to established 28nm fully by 2024 and introduced 14nm improved version in 2014.
Hopefully the commercial EUV will come out in 2025 to pick the slack for DUV.
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