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Oldschool

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It's still lagging, this is fact. China can't even produce proper DUV machine let alone EUV and still want to buy it from ASML and Nikon. There are many other semiconductor equipment that still dominate by US companies like LAM research etc. And I dont want to talk about software that dominate by android and ios.
EUV and DUV are totally different . They can be developed concurrently.

We will see soon this year China DUV system is a success or not. If not keep working on it. It just take time.

It take times to develope meanwhile buying from ASML allow them to wait for indeginous development
 

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It's still lagging, this is fact. China can't even produce proper DUV machine let alone EUV and still want to buy it from ASML and Nikon. There are many other semiconductor equipment that still dominate by US companies like LAM research etc. And I dont want to talk about software that dominate by android and ios.
@Annihilation98 I wish India success as @BoraTas posted before Physics are the same whether you are in Europe , China and India. But as @Oldschool had mentioned they need to put one's money where its mouth is, dreaming of grand project based on a creaky infrastructure is a surefire for disaster. You need to have a solid foundation first and that will take decades to accomplished and they need to do that NOW ASAP before embarking on an ambitious project.
 

foofy

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It's still lagging, this is fact. China can't even produce proper DUV machine let alone EUV and still want to buy it from ASML and Nikon. There are many other semiconductor equipment that still dominate by US companies like LAM research etc. And I dont want to talk about software that dominate by android and ios.
Welcome back from Mars. Bolehland.
 

foofy

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EUV and DUV are totally different . They can be developed concurrently.

We will see soon this year China DUV system is a success or not. If not keep working on it. It just take time.

It take times to develope meanwhile buying from ASML allow them to wait for indeginous development
China already got their ASML Nxt2050i
 

ougoah

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It's still lagging, this is fact. China can't even produce proper DUV machine let alone EUV and still want to buy it from ASML and Nikon. There are many other semiconductor equipment that still dominate by US companies like LAM research etc. And I dont want to talk about software that dominate by android and ios.

I was referring to design not fab. EUV is fab related. With foundries and fab of course China's lagging at least a few years if not more.
 

foofy

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really? are you sure about that ? any links?
From zhihu. Huahong Grace got one. SMIC got one. They are keeping low profile.

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    是,当时我还想报到一下2050movein的事,被大佬直接叫停谁都不准说。所以圈外的人都不知道SMIC第一时间就搞来全世界第三台NXT2050i 。前两条是T厂和M公司
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    刚刚说错了。康桥是华虹的厂……对,两个边都买了一台。
 

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@Annihilation98 I wish India success as @BoraTas posted before Physics are the same whether you are in Europe , China and India. But as @Oldschool had mentioned they need to put one's money where its mouth is, dreaming of grand project based on a creaky infrastructure is a surefire for disaster. You need to have a solid foundation first and that will take decades to accomplished and they need to do that NOW ASAP before embarking on an ambitious project.

The only chip India will make will be this one

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From zhihu. Huahong Grace got one. SMIC got one. They are keeping low profile.

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    是,当时我还想报到一下2050movein的事,被大佬直接叫停谁都不准说。所以圈外的人都不知道SMIC第一时间就搞来全世界第三台NXT2050i 。前两条是T厂和M公司
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    刚刚说错了。康桥是华虹的厂……对,两个边都买了一台。
@foofy your previous post about SMIC technical difficulties regarding their 5nm project maybe this DUVL may help?
 
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