Chinese OS and software ecosystem

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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Tencent and their TIMI studio released this trailer a while ago for their Honor of kings franchise, it cool to finally see Chinese game developer go for the AAA gaming space. How much of this is CGI or real gameplay is to be determined. But given Wukong and Unreal engine 5 they might be capable of succeeding in this vision.

I guess Tencent had to be slapped and almost sanctioned by CPC to go for something of being worthy being the biggest game developer in the world. Before only gacha chest and mobile crap.
 

daifo

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Huawei is hinting of releasing HarmonyOS devices in Europe 2022.
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Outside of the Chinese market, Huawei will have to convince the big developers to use their store or partner with a legit apk download site. Maybe they can partner with Epic Games who is trying to break out of the Google/Apple duopoly. If there will be a lack of software ,I think they should start by releasing their tablets with a desktop Browser overseas as Google Services may not be as critical in that form factor.As an example, Amazon Fire/OS tablets (while the phone failed) seems to sell well even though I find their APP store/ecosystem to be total complete garbage.
 
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solarz

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I guess Tencent had to be slapped and almost sanctioned by CPC to go for something of being worthy being the biggest game developer in the world. Before only gacha chest and mobile crap.

The single biggest problem with Chinese gaming right now is a lack of single player games. While there are a few on Steam, there are literally none on the mobile platform (and no, PVE MMOs don't count).
 

el pueblo unido

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The single biggest problem with Chinese gaming right now is a lack of single player games. While there are a few on Steam, there are literally none on the mobile platform (and no, PVE MMOs don't count).
Monopolistic behavior from large IT giant, a low-income society with no free time, very stressful work/drinking/family culture even in tier one areas, traditional anti-gaming posture from the older generation (they blame every failure of their own parenting with online games, etc), plus censorship, even tho if one actually talented enough such little restrain is no obstacle but everybody blames the censorship regarding very sensitive topics, are all the problems that are preventing a thriving 3A gaming industry in China, but I think the gov is working on them, as these are also obstacle towards economic development.
 

solarz

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Monopolistic behavior from large IT giant, a low-income society with no free time, very stressful work/drinking/family culture even in tier one areas, traditional anti-gaming posture from the older generation (they blame every failure of their own parenting with online games, etc), plus censorship, even tho if one actually talented enough such little restrain is no obstacle but everybody blames the censorship regarding very sensitive topics, are all the problems that are preventing a thriving 3A gaming industry in China, but I think the gov is working on them, as these are also obstacle towards economic development.

Yeah no, I don't think so.

China had a very vibrant single player game market in the 90's and 2000's. Games like 金庸群侠传, 仙剑 series, 轩辕剑 series, were all hugely successful and popular.

What killed the Chinese single player game was the success of World of Warcraft. Pretty much everyone was playing WOW, and it spurred countless imitation trash MMOs. Then the mobile explosion happened, and trash MMOs developers found a gold mine in the mobile gaming market.
 

el pueblo unido

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Yeah no, I don't think so.

China had a very vibrant single player game market in the 90's and 2000's. Games like 金庸群侠传, 仙剑 series, 轩辕剑 series, were all hugely successful and popular.

What killed the Chinese single player game was the success of World of Warcraft. Pretty much everyone was playing WOW, and it spurred countless imitation trash MMOs. Then the mobile explosion happened, and trash MMOs developers found a gold mine in the mobile gaming market.
Yes, that was the conclusion majority of the people had back before 2015, cracked pc gaming was the thing that killed the single player industry, so developers had to switch to online gaming market to gain profits, back then there were many awesome single player titles but these company all switch to other business for more profit, after all you need to get people feed before entertained, WOW is only an actor of catalyst towards this trend, and wow is both very time & capital consuming, t made bank in China they even made special China DLC, but ultimately, what's preventing the great triple A title to emerge from China is indeed MONEY, if the dev is not passionate enough about making a great triple A title, then there are so many other ways to make money, those stupid pop up windows that gets infested inside people's cracked win7 pc for web page based online games for example. And they can always blame on censorship for their lack of drive or push for great triple A titles like the film industry, and instead we have the new Dune movie with great cinematograph and can be creative while following the LAWS.

Also agree or not, my point is proven, the average Chinese are still on a $500 monthly salary in blow tier 2 cities working with low to zero wellfare and very intense working hours that's usually 50-72 hours per week, and the younger demographic like high school students has to face GaoKao so their purchasing potential is actually low, how are they going to buy multiple $75 title that also requires either a gaming PC or expensive consoles ? also due to the gap in development, the older generation of the Chinese did not had chance to toy around retro handles, Ataris, or NES, you can't find a pawn shop in China with all gens of gaming consoles laying around selling dirt cheap like in Canada/US, so the gaming culture was a very rare thing back then, and a expensive habit for the few wealthier demographics. majority of the kids now grown up with either MMORPG, or current generation with their mobile gaming craze, and China does have one of the most advanced mobile gaming industry, so if we want to see a constant output of triple A titles coming out of China, then we put more hope on Xi's common prosperity's policy along with a very successful title to bring a start, and I have faith it will happen one day.
 

solarz

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Also agree or not, my point is proven, the average Chinese are still on a $500 monthly salary in blow tier 2 cities working with low to zero wellfare and very intense working hours that's usually 50-72 hours per week, and the younger demographic like high school students has to face GaoKao so their purchasing potential is actually low, how are they going to buy multiple $75 title that also requires either a gaming PC or expensive consoles ? also due to the gap in development, the older generation of the Chinese did not had chance to toy around retro handles, Ataris, or NES, you can't find a pawn shop in China with all gens of gaming consoles laying around selling dirt cheap like in Canada/US, so the gaming culture was a very rare thing back then, and a expensive habit for the few wealthier demographics. majority of the kids now grown up with either MMORPG, or current generation with their mobile gaming craze, and China does have one of the most advanced mobile gaming industry, so if we want to see a constant output of triple A titles coming out of China, then we put more hope on Xi's common prosperity's policy along with a very successful title to bring a start, and I have faith it will happen one day.

Single player games cost way less money than MMOs. Single player games also require much less time investment than MMOs. So those two facts would mean people with low salary and little leisure time should be attracted to single player games instead, which is obviously not the case in China right now.

Also, notice that my complaint was particularly directed at the dearth of single player games on mobile. Pretty much everyone in China has access to a smartphone, so not having access to the hardware is also not the reason.

Finally, good games don't need to be AAA. In fact, most AAA games are crap. AAA refers to the development and marketing budget, not to the quality of the game.
 

caudaceus

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So apparently the Alibaba Cloud Security Team discovered and informed the Apache Foundation of the biggest security flaw in years. The US DHS is going crazy over it but still wants to blame China somehow.
It's a very potent zero day but since it's affect logging you can't made a clandestine attack of it.
 
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