Norinco joint ventures with Kazakhstan company for manufacturing munition, air to ground laser guided bomb tiange and mlrs guided rockets for bm 27 king dragon 60, also supplied fire dragon 140A for bm 30 smerch.
Chinese Military Exports (Land Systems)
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I think the problem is not the quality of the tank, but the publicity of it. The war between Thailand and Cambodia really give China's weapon quality come into question. Because the publicity mostly said about the mighty Thai's western weapons, while the bad China's made weapon. Specially when today Cambodia is at the losing side. Just imagine, Cambodia, one of the closest China Ally got trampled by American made weapon by Thailand, and China do nothing to help their Ally. Plus, their weapon are shown unreliable in the war.
So China needs to do something. Specially when from what I saw from my local news that Cambodian soldiers are retreating from the front-lines. It means that Thailand is winning, and the western weapons are triumph once again.
I mean two barrels blew up in a low intensity conflict in like 1.5 weeks is terrible... Not to mention iirc this is the first time VT-4 has seen a real battlefield against a actual army. I'm sure there are flukes but two in a short amount of time..?
I really can't believe you guys are crying over a blasted tank gun just because it means dumbasses on Twitter are gonna use it to mock how bad China is.
It's war. Shit happens. Let's move on.
It's war. Shit happens. Let's move on.
Cambodia and Thailand to China is like Greece and Turkey to USA. Neither are closer to China although I'd argue that Thailand is more important to China, it is certainly more capable a nation than Cambodia in the modern age. China has far more trade with Thailand and has sold more weapons by volume, mass and value to Thailand.
Thailand operates Chinese artillery, tanks, submarines and various munitions. Cambodia operates Chinese small arms and artillery.
No, people are crying because this might mean there are deeper problems with Norinco.
It might be low intensity in the number of personnel and commitment of both sides but the individual units are still operating at a high tempo, especially since they mentioned that the tanks were used as fire support and pumping out rounds at max RPM and the likelihood of maintenance after the ceasefire earlier on the year is low due to the heightened tensions and readiness at the border despite what Trump says that he brokered a long term peace.
The first tank was ~200 rounds in 4 days, so basically 50 rounds per day which isn't exactly very high tempo (I remember in an episode of Chuahuahui on the VT-4 matter they mentioned Russo-Ukrainian war, Russian tanks fired 60-70 rounds per tank per day in 2022), it leaves ample time for them to do whatever field maintenance is required, considering they weren't really maneuvering either. I doubt they were pumping out rounds at max RPM either, I mean it takes like max 15-20 minute to fire 50 rounds at max RPM including the time required for one full reload of the autoloader, so they either just sat in their position doing nothing for the rest of the day which I feel like is unlikely or they pumped out few short burst of rounds every now and then which is far more likely.