Chinese Hypersonic Developments (HGVs/HCMs)

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>Sources say the scientist, in his 30s, is connected with a more recent hypersonic missile delivery system that can circle the globe before descending from space and use heat-seeking technology to strike any target on Earth.

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ChongqingHotPot92

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>Sources say the scientist, in his 30s, is connected with a more recent hypersonic missile delivery system that can circle the globe before descending from space and use heat-seeking technology to strike any target on Earth.

Top kek. I think it's obvious to everyone here they're just jumbling all the recent headlines together. Worthless fake news
Could be true as part of spy games. There were tons of mutual defections between USSR and US happening all the time during the Cold War. I only feel bad for the scientists family in China, as they are now on the MPS' watch list, which could seriously hinder their career advancements should they choose to pursue employment in civil service, particularly the national security field.

However, the DF-17 had been in service since 2018-2019, and China has clearly working on more advanced hypersonic gliders. By the time the US military comes up with something similar (say the US Army's Dark Eagle LRHM platform with a DF-17 type glider), the PLARF and PLAAF would most likely have commissioned its 2nd generation hypersonic weapon. The PLAN is also working working on a mini-DF-17 that could in inserted into the 055 and 052D's VLS, based on what I have heard. If these VLS-capable mini hypersonics have ranges greater than 1,000km, they would be a nightmare for the US and its allies.
 

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Chinese scientists say they have proved that a hypersonic weapon could use 6G technology for communication and target detection, solving some of the blackout problems that occur at five times the speed of sound or faster.
The research team in Tianjin said it had achieved a “complete penetration” of the signal-blocking plasma shield around a hypersonic weapon with electromagnetic waves.
Yao and his colleagues with the school of precision instruments and optoelectronics engineering at Tianjin University have developed a laser device that could generate a continuous beam of electromagnetic waves in the terahertz band, a frequency range between microwave and infrared that is also used for 6G next-generation communication technology.
A hypersonic weapon travelling at Mach 5 in the atmosphere can reach an effective communication range up to 60km (37 miles) with a 5-watt transceiver at a high frequency of 2 THz, according to researchers with the Northwestern Polytechnical University and Shanghai Aerospace Control Technology Institute.
The terahertz device built by Yao’s team worked at a slightly higher frequency of 2.5Thz. They did not estimate the range of their technology in an open environment.
Range should be <100 miles
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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What would more advanced/2nd gen HGVs look like, what new features would they have etc? I'm struggling to imagine it when they should still work using the same principles.
Better sensor fusion and targeting, more efficient processing of targeting information, as well as longer strike range. Being able to independing search and distinguish between enemy and friendly targets using AI within 1/100 of a second, etc. Also, being able to switch targets while in flight, such as switching from zeroing in on moving target A to moving target B within less than second after receiving a new command from Beidou or other space based networks. Lol I am just guessing.
 

ougoah

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I would imagine some definite improvements to guidance for 2nd generation HGV weapons (of all forms and propelled/glide only). China's first gens probably have highly advanced but relatively limited inertial guidance technologies in order to get the level of accuracy displayed by the HGV inside the newer DF-15 missile. It was what? 10m off target at most in the least accurate shot and the accurate shot was bang on target from those photos from late 2021.

I imagine China is fielding 2nd gen HGVs right now and more sophisticated subcomponents are being developed. After all, it publicly disclosed that China's HGVs (of no specific generation and type) can make use of bleeding edge communication technologies that so far only China is experimenting and playing with, namely 6G telecomm and space based ones. They say the range is very limited to several hundred kilometers but they will be saying that and they reveal hardly a fraction of what they're playing with. Then there was that reveal they have long range heat seeking hypersonic weapons in development due to breakthroughs in guidance, and no doubt that has to involve targeting communications between shooter/sensor node and weapon.

There would be multiple guidance and communications breakthroughs re hypersonic weapons for them to be this candid about details (range, frequencies, technology type - laser based) for just one domain of potentially applicable guidance and comms tech for HGVs.

What's boring is the low tier basic ass scramjet engines (China had since 1990s) that some nations attach to rockets and the hypersonic section barely scratches mach 5 and doesn't steer via shockwaves like even now dated DF-ZF (DF-17 vehicle) does. And even this basic scramjet + rocket is difficult and inoperable for some (India) while US is still finalising their Tsirkon equivalent HAWC.
 
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