Chinese Economics Thread

SamuraiBlue

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Thanks a lot t2contra an excellent comparison vindicated my rebuttal to Blackstone post blindly trusting the knee jerk reaction of BBC article about Kenya SGR insinuating corruption and gross incompetent
Blackstone are you out there click the link and read the post
Here is the summary

For purposes of comparison, the Kenyan SGR is a bit more complex and grand. Here’s a detailed analysis. (Some figures are outdated)
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On face value, it would be easy to say that Ethiopia is getting better value for money, but upon analyzing the technical aspects of each, plus issues like land acquisition, bridges and stations, you can see where the money is going on the Kenyan side.

Comparing the chart I believe the Ethiopian's technical configuration is better.
Can't say which is getting a better deal though.
 

Blackstone

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I was always skeptical of the claim countries need democracy and free speech to innovate, because history show Western countries were mostly non-democratic when they made some of theirs, and mankind's, greatest discoveries, inventions, and innovations. Slowly the notion "China needs democracy (NOW!) to innovate" is changing, and here's more evidence.

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When I asked a Beijing-based venture capitalist who travels to the U.S. frequently what foreigners need to know to understand the Chinese internet, he sent me a stream of comments he hears all the time:

“I thought without freedom of expression you can’t innovate. I thought with censorship you’d always be confused what product you can do. I thought American companies would be successful if it weren’t for Chinese protectionism,” ran his list. “I thought Chinese people would really want to see American websites if they could.”


While censorship, protectionism and copying are often the first things that many foreigners associate with Chinese tech—and they’re undoubtedly important factors—thinking beyond them is vital to understanding the Chinese internet.

China leads the world in many ways: It is now the world’s largest e-commerce and mobile-payment market. Of China’s roughly 700 million mobile-internet users last year, half paid with their smartphones in stores and restaurants, 28% ordered meal delivery and 44% read online fiction, according to a government report.

Here’s what you need to know about the Chinese internet and how it’s influencing the rest of the world.

1. Chinese aren’t clamoring to bypass government internet filters to visit websites such as Google, YouTube and Facebook.

Yes, China heavily censors the internet. Many people are frustrated by the limits on life and work imposed by what’s collectively called the Great Firewall.

Still, the majority of Chinese aren’t focused on what they can’t reach because domestic websites more than fill the void.

When a 13-year-old relative from the mainland came to visit me in Hong Kong earlier this year, I asked her if she wanted to watch videos on YouTube. No, she said, she prefers Chinese video sites. It’s not about the language barrier; her English is excellent. It’s about familiarity. She grew up watching Chinese TV dramas and variety shows online.

2. Even when foreign apps aren’t blocked, Chinese competitors win because so many people are using their products that they become indispensable.

Internet calling and messaging apps Skype, WhatsApp and Slack are accessible, but they’re just no substitute for Chinese products that locals are using in droves. Take WeChat, the social-messaging app from Tencent Holdings Ltd. that has more than 900 million accounts.

“China runs on WeChat. So do our startups,” says Ji Ke, program director at HAX Accelerator. The venture firm brings mostly North American and European hardware startups to Shenzhen to take advantage of the city’s proximity to manufacturing facilities and supply chains. One of the first things HAX does with those foreign transplants, Mr. Ke says, is put them on WeChat so that they can communicate with locals, make payments and organize events.

They tried to use Slack several times, he says, but reverted to WeChat after a few days because many of the people they were talking to didn’t have Slack.

3. Once a technology or a business model is out there, Chinese nimbly adapt it to the local market—which in China is known as “micro-innovation.”

Oppo and Vivo, the No. 1 and No. 3 smartphone brands by market share in 2016, appeal to young people and residents in smaller, less-wealthy cities. Their phones look like iPhones and pack many of the same features, but with China’s lower cost base for manufacturing, they cost less than half the price of an iPhone.

That has helped Oppo and Vivo double their market share, while Apple’s has fallen by 13% to the fourth position.

Meituan Dianping started as a copycat of Groupon, the daily-deals site. Now, Meituan delivers meals, books hotels, sells movie tickets and offers a Yelp-like rating service. Groupon remains, well, a daily-deals site.

4. Rapid adoption is creating demand for new products and business models.

Mobile payments, nearly nonexistent in China five years ago, are now everywhere—restaurants, taxis, convenience stores—making it possible to live a cashless life.

China’s mobile-payment volume rose by almost fourfold in 2016 to 58.5 trillion yuan ($8.6 trillion), according to iResearch. Some $800 billion of that went to ride services, games and shopping. By comparison, mobile payments in the U.S. rose 39% to $112 billion in 2016, according to Forrester Research.

That’s spawning new services, like shared bikes. Users can make payments and unlock the bikes via apps so there’s no need for credit or stored-value cards or docking stations. The bikes have taken over Chinese cities.

5. Now the copying has reversed—in some ways.

Facebook followed WeChat’s footsteps in adding e-commerce, friend-to-friend money transfers and ticket buying—which the website Tech in Asia called “Facebook’s WeChat-ification.” Apple announced this past week that its iMessage service will also support a friend-to-friend payment transfer feature.

When my Wall Street Journal colleagues reported last week that fast-food chains and high-end restaurants in the U.S. are expanding lunch-delivery services, my first thought was, “This is so China in 2015.”
 

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China's new energy vehicle sales surge in May
Source: Xinhua| 2017-06-12 20:36:36|Editor: An
BEIJING, June 12 (Xinhua) -- Both production and sales in new energy vehicles (NEVs) in China soared in May despite a cut in government subsidies, while the growth of the overall auto market remained tepid, industry data showed.

A total of 45,000 NEVs were sold in May, up 28.4 percent year on year while 51,000 NEVs were produced, up 38.2 percent year on year, data from the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) showed Monday.

Total auto sales remained stable, with 2.1 million vehicles sold in May, up 0.6 percent compared with that in April. The number declined 0.1 percent year on year.

Total auto production stood at 2.09 million in May, down 2.4 percent from that in April and up 0.7 percent on a year-on-year basis.

China's NEV market has been growing rapidly thanks to government support. Central and local officials have rolled out policies including offering subsidies and encouraging the construction of charging stations.

Local automakers including BYD and BAIC Motor Corporation have received a boost in sales, rivaling international competitors such as Tesla in the world's largest auto market.

The sales data in May came despite a cut in government subsidies this year, as officials vowed to support vehicles of higher quality and with longer driving ranges.

Subsidies for NEVs at both local and central levels will be capped, while the amount will be gradually lowered by 2020, according to an official statement.

China sold 507,000 NEVs last year, the most in the world for a second year and up 53 percent from 2015, CAAM data showed.

According to an official plan on auto industry development, China will see NEV output and sales hit 2 million annually by 2020, about four times the current level.

There should be several Chinese NEV firms that are strong enough to rank among the world top 10 by 2020, and their global influence should further increase by 2025, according to the plan.

[ Me: For what it's worth, my picks would be Geely/Volvo EV series, BYD, maybe NEVS and BAIC ]
 

Hendrik_2000

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Trade with China is win win for everybody so all those critic should eat their word
DON’T TRASH TALK CHINA. IT HAS MADE US ALL FAR BETTER OFF
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Progress made in talks with China, Trump says
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The chart above shows the amazing deflation that has taken place in the US for durable goods (vehicles and parts, household furnishing, furniture, household appliances, household utensils, tools and equipment for the house and garden, sporting goods, video/audio/photographic equipment, computers, etc.) over the last several decades.

Compared to 1995, durable goods have fallen in price by 35 percent (measured by the
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have increased by 75 percent and
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have increased by 46 percent. Overall, the
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has increased by 48 percent.

How to explain the dramatic 35 percent price decline since 1995 for durable goods?

Here’s one very important reason: China. Scott Grannis explains in his recent post “
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” (featuring a chart similar to the one above, emphasis added below):

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the emergence of China as a major exporter of durable goods (e.g., TVs, computers, cameras) coincided with the beginning of a sustained decline in the prices of durable goods.

If there’s been an identifiable source of deflation in the US economy, it’s not been the Fed, but the vast increase in the productivity of the Chinese economy, and the vast increase in the volume of imported Chinese goods to the US economy. Thanks to the industrialization of China, the world has been able to produce manufactured goods much more cheaply than ever before.

This has been a boon to just about everyone in the US economy, and the chart above is also proof of that. Consider that the price of “services” is largely driven by wages, and service sector workers are about 86 percent of total payrolls. What the chart shows is that the earnings of the great majority of US workers have increased 2.7 times more than the price of durable goods.

In other words, an hour’s worth of work for the typical American today buys 2.7 times more in the way of durable goods than it did in 1995. When it comes to durable goods, the average American’s purchasing power has nearly tripled over the past 22 years, thanks largely to China.

And China’s total contribution to lower prices in the US isn’t completely captured by the 35 percent deflation in durable goods, because that doesn’t include clothing and footwear (those are classified as non-durable goods), which have also fallen in price over the last twenty years along with durable goods.

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As the table below of the top US imports from China indicates, Americans purchase a lot of clothing and footwear from China (about $47 billion worth last year), and those consumer items represent three of the top 13 import categories from China (
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The other 10 items below are durable goods, and would be good examples of the types of goods that have gotten cheaper for Americans since the 1990s due to the emergence of China as a manufacturing superpower.

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Bottom Line: We hear a lot about how China “steals” America’s production, jobs, and wealth. According to
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, “the money and the jobs China has taken from us is the greatest single theft in the history of the United States.”

Here’s another way to look at it: The billions of dollars Americans have saved from buying low-cost products made in China since 1995, and the US jobs that have been created by the additional spending from those savings is one of the biggest transfers of wealth (or “theft” in Trump-speak) in the history of the United States.

Instead of continually criticizing our largest trading partner, maybe we should show a little more appreciation to the country that has probably done more to raise America’s standard of living by providing us low-cost durable goods, clothing, and footwear than any country in the history of the United States.

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Blackstone

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Trade with China is win win for everybody so all those critic should eat their word
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I agree with the article, but I'm a bit surprised an AEI scholar wrote it. I say that because AEI's full of neoconservatives, and they don't generally write 'China good' stories.
 

Blackstone

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Venezuela defaults on Russia, could China be far behind?

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Venezuela defaulted on part of its $2.5 billion loan from Russia's state-controlled oil company Rosneft once again, giving Wall Street bond lords cause for concern that a default on PDVSA oil bonds is right around the corner. PDVSA is a quasi-sovereign and is the government's only remaining cash cow. The government owed Rosneft a reported $950 million.

News of the missed payment sent Venezuela’s $3 billion government bond due 2022 to trade at around 57 cents, for an annualized yield of 29.3% for those lucky (or unlucky) enough to be buyers at those levels. Assuming the par value of the bond was $100, that means the bond is now worth $57. Some bondholders in London immediately questioned whether or not the missed Russia payment constituted a default, the Financial Times reported. The International Swaps and Derivatives Association said it did not.

Investors have been waiting for an official default for nearly a year now. Venezuela keeps pulling a rabbit out of its hat. Last month, Goldman Sachs "loaned" the government $2.8 billion by buying distressed PDVSA bonds. The purchase sent the anti-PSUV crowd into the streets of New York, calling into question the beating, bleeding heart of the famous American "vampire squid." In its original statement, Goldman said: "We recognize that the situation is complex and evolving and that Venezuela is in crisis. We agree that life there has to get better, and we made the investment in part because we believe it will."

But it has not. Venezuela is getting worse. And paying bondholders may prove to be highly unpopular for the United Socialists of Venezuela (PSUV), a party whose soul rests on an anticolonial narrative spun by the late Hugo Chavez. Chavez made going against Washington free traders and capitalist pigs his calling card. It is hard to imagine a PSUV-controlled government siding with Wall Street over poor people, but so far, that has been the case. This is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

Backers of the ruling PSUV party rally in front of the Supreme Court of Justice in Caracas, on June 12, 2017. On Monday, Venezuela's Supreme Court rejected a legal challenge by the attorney general against the government's constitutional reform bid in a deadly political crisis. (Photo by LUIS ROBAYO/AFP/Getty Images)

Cash flow concerns continue. To make matters worse, a Deleware court granted Canadian miner Crystallex International a $1.4 billion arbitral award against the Venezuelan government on June 12. The Venezuelan government was found attempting to evade payment to Crystallex by moving its assets out of the U.S. and into Delaware subsidiaries of a state-owned company. These recurrent themes of missed payments and late payments and now the Cyrstallex arbitration ruling all add to cash flow stress. Holders of PDVSA bonds will have to tend with falling bond prices and hope their hefty interest payments are not wiped out by capital losses in a hard default.

Venezuela's political crisis has yet to lead to regime change. Nicolas Maduro is still in power following two months of daily protests calling for his ouster. PSUV is holding on tight like a tick on a dog.

For Goldman Sachs' PDVSA bonds, the more important near-term outlook relates to oil. If oil prices don't fall too much, PDVSA can keep the lights on.

"We cannot predict the exact timing of either regime change or a hard default," says Siobhan Morden, a managing director for Nomura Securities in New York. She is still holding out for a "muddling through" and no default in order to avoid a backlash of further economic stress. A default means companies like Rosneft and Goldman Sachs stop funding Venezuela. Then the country essentially goes bankrupt.

The biggest risk is if PSUV supporters manage to convince the government that it should use the money to support the poor instead of making interest payments. So far, disdain for PSUV is so great that even Maduro and die-hard Chavistas have not been able to get that message across successfully. The World Bank recently forecast Venezuela's GDP to contract this year and in 2018.

Goldman Sachs may walk away from this with a huge payday, and the Russians may yet get paid. Nomura's in-house cash flow analysis shows a neutral position this year with even higher conviction if oil remains stable.

Venezuela has an estimated $243 million in bond payments due later this month and another $70 million in July. There's not much cushion for liabilities like the Russian loan and the Crystallex award, both now a serious overhang.

"Venezuela continues to pursue delay tactics on appealing these judgments to avoid a technical default," Morden says about Crystallex in particular.

Despite the anti-Yankee world view from Chavez and his ilk, Venezuela's government seems less fond of the Russians and the Chinese. Even the Canadians. It is the Americans bond fund manager getting paid first.

In February, PDVSA fell months behind on shipments of crude and fuel under an oil-for-loan deal with both China and Russia, according to internal company documents reviewed by Reuters. Russia and China have loaned some $55 billion to the country over the last three years, with most of it coming from China. So far, U.S. investors have only been impacted by rumors of missed payments crushing PDVSA bond prices, rather than an actual PDVSA bond default. Goldman Sachs Asset Management purchase PDVSA bonds for 31 cents on the dollar, a flea market sale of nearly 70% from par value and with super-high yield in dollars. It was a gamble that Venezuela eventually gets its act together. Unless PSUV cancels democratic elections, this party might not last another two years. The general election is scheduled for October 2018.
 
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