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jnd85

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Nope. From what I read, there are many different types of rock layers plus water layers. The construction process will be a nightmare.
In August of 1950 there was the magnitude 8.6 Medog Earthquake that hit the exact region where the hydropower plant is to be constructed, so it will be a gamble.

However, unlike the Three Gorges, it appears to be designed without a single large resevoir and shoulder to shoulder turbines, instead using a linear series of turbines taking advantage of the preexisting descent of the water flow through the mountains. Depending on the design, of which I have not seen detailed plans yet, this design a good thing from a safety perspective. Still, it will have to be built to tremendous tolerances.

I would be very curious to see the internal cost benefit scenario in the event of a catastrophic failure.
 

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Probably mostly from Chinese exporters holding their profits in the US. Beijing is telling them bring their money home.

There's also apparently going to be a 20% tax on rental income over ¥10k in Sep. Some of that will be passed on to the tenants, but I think mostly going to be eaten by the landlords.
Not going to happen. Real estate crash already put many people in severe debt. This is going to cause riots lol.
 

Wrought

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Energy imports from the US were effectively zero in June.

That came to a head last month, when China
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crude oil from the US for the first time in almost three years, according to the latest Chinese customs data. Crude is the most heavily traded commodity in the world and China the biggest buyer. In June last year, its purchases from the US were worth nearly $800 million.

Last month’s deliveries of gas, increasingly a prime US export, were zero for a fourth consecutive month, a collapse that’s partly due to Chinese firms reselling American shipments to more profitable markets in Europe and Asia. Coal purchases, which in June last year were worth over $90 million, shrank to just a few hundred dollars for a second straight month.

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Interview of Prof. Sun Zhongwei from South China Normal University, on the policy approach towards automating industry while avoiding or at least mitigating huge unemployment, second-order effects, etc.

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The choice is between techno feudalism and communism. If they choose the former Ike the super power across the pond then they too deserve to get overthrown.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Summary:
Overview

China has been growing as a leader in industrial automation, replacing millions of workers with robots without major mass layoffs. The focus is on gradually transforming the workforce, with reallocation to the service sector—and without the social shock many feared.

️ Determining Factors
• Policies and Investment: Since Made in China 2025 (launched in 2015), the country has encouraged industrial modernization with robots, equipping industrial parks with advanced technology.
• Rising Wage Costs: When the average annual wage exceeded ~50,000 RMB, investment in robots (around 100,000 RMB) became economically attractive, especially with falling equipment prices.
• Local Capacity Building: China has developed its robot industry (e.g., Midea + KUKA) and extensively trained automation professionals—something its Southeast Asian neighbors have yet to achieve.

♂️ Impact on Workers
• Gradual displacement through "natural reduction" (retirements, job changes without new hires).
• Instead of becoming unemployed, many migrate to sectors such as delivery, retail, and digital entertainment — estimated: >20 million workers.
• Optimistic attitude: About 90% of workers interviewed report not fearing job loss; many migrants see automation as an opportunity.

International Comparison
• In developed countries, automation was late and less intense — many resorted to offshoring initially.
• Today, China accounts for more than 50% of industrial robots installed globally (~270,000 out of 540,000 in 2023).
• This mitigated the risk of "premature deindustrialization" seen in countries like Mexico or Indonesia.

Next Steps
• Industrial automation is reaching a plateau — the next boost will come from artificial intelligence, applied to management, service, and data analysis activities.
• The increase in professionals with higher education and technical qualifications creates favorable conditions for this evolution.
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China's New Economic Priority: Ending the Race to the Bottom​

Latest economic meeting chaired by Xi suggests Beijing is serious about ending the price wars destroying Chinese industries​

Summary:
Context

At the 6th meeting of the Central Financial and Economic Commission (chaired by Xi Jinping), China defined the regulation of predatory competition as a strategic priority—focusing on ending price wars and encouraging the exit of inefficient companies.

⚠️ Problems identified
• Uncontrolled competition leads to:
• Below-cost pricing as a survival strategy.
• Heterogeneous expansion and overcapacity.
• Investment in marketing and channels without improving quality (a phenomenon called "involution").
• In particular, the electric vehicle sector suffers from excessively long payment terms—up to 240 days—and compressed margins.

️ Measures defined
• Orderly exit: facilitate bankruptcies and liquidations by creating clear mechanisms for compensation and debt resolution.
• Strict regulations: standardization in public procurement and transparency in subsidies and regional agreements. • Focus on quality: guide companies to improve products and innovate rather than compete solely on price.

Implications for the EV industry

Recent policies appear to be targeted at the electric vehicle sector: long payment terms and predatory competition are putting pressure on margins and hindering investment in innovation.

Broader Framework

These measures are part of China's "dual circulation" strategy—strengthening the domestic market while maintaining external trade—and align with the focus on "high-quality development" proposed since 2017.
 
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