Chinese Economics Thread

KYli

Brigadier
Unlike US or EU, most big companies in China are SOE, so the dividend would go to the government

I think the key important index/measure is the fiscal deficit against GDP. And Yes China should improve it
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That is due to the trade war. China was forced to enact two rounds of tax cut and small spending increase to offset the effect of tariff. In the contrary, China stimulus for covid is peanut compare with other countries. I don't think deficit is totally bad especially you have a low national debt and interest rate environment.
 

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
In public security there is a defence spending?
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It’s separate from those numbers.

Recent deficit rise was due to tax cuts to offset trump tariffs it seems

Tax Cuts Since 2018​

Reduced revenue by 3.3 trillion yuan
Lowered value-added tax for all firms
More small firms made eligible for simplified value-added tax
Lowered revenue tax for small firms
Allowed deduction of some R&D expenses from corporate taxes
Simplified export tax rebates
Lowered import tariffs
Raised tax-free threshold for individual income tax
Made some living expenses deductible from personal taxable income
Lowered premium for social secuirty

Source: Ministry of Finance
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
In public security there is a defence spending?
Actually from what i see the public security term excludes military spending which is disturbing as the new military budget is at 1.35 trillion yuan. This is total madness if it is true, China cannot expect to reasonably compete militarily with the USA if it spends more on internal security than its own military lol.

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from 2019 where the public security budget was 1.39 trillion yuan
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Actually from what i see the public security term excludes military spending which is disturbing as the new military budget is at 1.35 trillion yuan. This is total madness if it is true, China cannot expect to reasonably compete militarily with the USA if it spends more on internal security than its own military lol.

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from 2019 where the public security budget was 1.39 trillion yuan
Most countries spend more on internal security than external. China counts a lot of police, firefighting, PAP, MSS, coast guard into internal security.

US costs are split into state and city budgets, so internal security is just the 3 letter spy agencies.

None of these budgets are really comparable to other countries until u dig into the line items.
 
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